Singing to Sol

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Sorry mate but that is a load of bollocks.

How?

If every person in the country had £1million then £1million would not be a lot of money.

If every Supporter engages in the same practice, then it cannot be a practice that is out of the norm.

If every club's supporter's sing songs about their rivals, then it can't be "small-time" as that would mean that every club in the world is "small-time".

I think that the only thing that is "small-time" by supporters is silence. For a team that has struggled for atmosphere over the past 2 seasons I'm all for any song that is sung by the majority of WHL.

 

[Khilari]

I know my opinion on may be very unpopular here. But I find the chants uncomfortable. I enjoy taking my oldest (3.5yrs) and look forward to taking my youngest (15m) to the Lane and would be really sad if they sang such songs. Why? Because going to watch Spurs play is about experiencing the atmosphere, enjoying the glory of Tottenham Hotspur and wanting our boys to aim high.

Football is a game that brings people together and generates healthy competition and banter - and I enjoy taking part in it. But it's also about respect; respecting the rules, fellow professional and fellow supporters. Sometimes the line is grey and it may be crossed, but that's ok. Some of our supporters however want to cross the line between banter and offence regularly. I think they need to move on. Sol Campbell was a good player for Spurs but has a nasty stain on his career and quite rightly is remembered by many non-Spurs fans not just for his footballing achievements but his mercenary-like behaviour in securing a move away. That's enough for me.

I want us to ignore him as an irrelevance in our new future. Sure, when he comes out and brings stuff up, that's different and I understand reactions to him but he did something 'bad' in a footballing arena - he didn't commit a crime, harm someone etc (like some footballers who are vilified far less).

We pride ourselves as fans who not only enjoy and want glory and success but want it achieved in the right way, playing beautiful football. I also want us as fans to follow this theme in our support - to do it the right way. Through thick and thin but not involving the unsavoury aspects of being a fan like hooliganism, racism, homophobia and like.

Let's eclipse the memory that, tbh was a bloody long time ago.

 

[DJS]

We don't want to base our identity on them though, do we?

I think you and the people who agreed at missing my point.

I meant that they sing about us as we're the rivals, as I suspect Man U do about citeh, Liverpool do about Everton etc?

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

A colleague at work went to see the scum play at the Emirates last week and she said that they were singing the "stand up if you hate Tottenham.." song - so i don't think your logic applies.

Of course it does.

They can sing it without looking bitter about the relative success of their rivals. We can't.

 

[jimbo]

I think you and the people who agreed at missing my point.

I meant that they sing about us as we're the rivals, as I suspect Man U do about citeh, Liverpool do about Everton etc?

Yes, and their players post those ridiculous pics of themselves holding anti-spurs banners etc. I wouldn't want our players to do that in return because it looks desperately childish to me. The fact that all the other clubs in the Premier League sing about their rivals all the time doesn't mean we should do it, we shouldn't be sheep. We talk about the 'Tottenham Way' in terms of what happens on the pitch as something that makes us stand-out from the other teams, we should do the same in the stands.

Is my onion.

 

[CowInAComa]

if we could stop singing 'stand up if you hate Arsenal' when aren't playing them too that would be great. Its pathetic and makes us look small

shittest most desperately needy chant ever.

Only gurning mugs stand up to that chant.

 

[CowInAComa]

Imagine if your missus run off with another bloke and you respond by chanting that you hate him. Standing up in your own living room. When he isnt even there.

That is what the stand up if you hate arsenal chant is like to me. Totally embarrassing impotent rage.

I would laugh if i wasnt too busy cringing whenever we sing it

 

[Jimbo78]

I agree with the stand up if you hate arsenal chant. We sing it far too often.


As for Scumpbell. I will sing it for aslong as I have air in my lungs.

What he did will go down in history and never be forgotten.

Bit like arsenal being a South London club. Almost 100 years later that has never been forgotten!

 

[vicbob]

It's hard enough to get anyone to sing anything half the time, at least it gets a few singing.

But yes in an ideal world we should probably stop singing both so much, but then the silence really would be deafening!

 

[MyNameIsNicolaBerti]

Campbell is a multi-millionaire with a beautiful house in Chelsea. However much we hate him, he's ultimately had the last laugh over those who chant the song. I'd rather we block him out of our history than keep giving him attention and keeping him on the radar.

 

[StartingPrice]

@ S*l C*mpb*ll: Whenever this topic raises its ugly head, my response if always the same. I do not not walk around in my everyday life frothing at the mouth getting into a rage about the creature. I do get animated whenever I hear his punditry/media friends trying to exonerate him and wheeling out the all he did was move from one club to another...what is Spurs fans' problem. And, for whatever reason [sic.], he feels a constant need to impose himself back upon the public consciousness with his inane, self-justificatory, self-pitying, and usually very apparently wrong, rants. I also get annoyed when anyone, but particularly Goons fans, peddle the idiotic line that we are jealous because he won things.

So, no, I personally, wouldn't join in the chants. I do understand, however, just how despicable his behaviour was - and borderline illegal. So, while not necessarily specifically willing it to continue, I can see how certain members of the support (perhaps less cerebral and who invest a hell of a lot of time and effort and money into supporting the club) still feel a rawness to what he did and want to vocalise that. And just to be clear, him either staying or allowing us to get a hefty transfer fee would have been major for the club at that time, given what we had just been through. And for him to not just join them but do it in the sneaky, snidey, lying, cheating way he did, while claiming to have supported the club as a kid, was utterly reprehensible.

@ Stand up if you hate Arse*al song: Goons fans absolutely do sing stand up if you hate Tottnam. They are constantly saying and doing things, posted online, to slight the club - and so do the players. They have switched from the We don't really bother with Spurs now, United are our real rivals (itself designed to slight) to being minutely obsessed with running us down at every opportunity (why? because we are a real threat to them again). Don't kid yourselves Should we sing it? When we are playing them, maybe, but it certainly doesn't perplex me if anyone else wants to do so

 

[onthetwo]

i like my chants to be motivational to the players, or just funny.
Its neither....end of.

 

[Skye Sauces]

Sol Campbell left this club 13 years ..... 13 years, yes thirteen years ago!

The majority of those who sing this song have probably never seen him play live in a Spurs shirt!

I have endured having to listen to this at nearly every away match in the UK last season and it makes me wince every time I hear it.

I find it embarrassing, but I dare say I've got another season in front of me where I'll be hearing it again (along with the trotting out of the Nicola Berti song).

I watched the Schalke game on the telly (don't do friendlies) and barely 2 minutes in what do I hear??
Is this the best you can do? Is this a show of your support for your team? 2 minutes in and this is all your imagination can come up with. What do you think the players think?

Time to let go and move on guys

 

[parklane1]

How?

If every person in the country had £1million then £1million would not be a lot of money.

If every Supporter engages in the same practice, then it cannot be a practice that is out of the norm.

If every club's supporter's sing songs about their rivals, then it can't be "small-time" as that would mean that every club in the world is "small-time".

I think that the only thing that is "small-time" by supporters is silence. For a team that has struggled for atmosphere over the past 2 seasons I'm all for any song that is sung by the majority of WHL.

And if we stopped singing shit songs like the Sol and Arse ones we may get some better ones going. Those two make us small time and pathetic.

 

[MyNameIsNicolaBerti]

along with the trotting out of the Nicola Berti song

 

[Skye Sauces]

Touche buddy and no offence. There had to be someone didn't there! I'm sure you remember him fondly.

I liked the fella, helped get us out of a bad patch even though he only played 21 games and had a shorter lifespan than Gross or Sherwood.
Desperate times and probably why he got a song. Was he worth a song? I come from a different age when a player had to do something special to earn his song.

 

[Leo]

Should be in away pubs only, not the lane or if so at the bar and not the stand. Time and place for it basically.

 

[LiamJM10]

What he did leaving us was a bitchboy move. But I'm not a fan or ever singing songs about our rivals. It's sad and pathetic. You go to the games to support us, not throw cheap jabs at them.

It really is small-time imo, they seem to sing about us a lot more than we do about them, and I can't stand it. It's obsession at it's finest. Don't want us to fall into that. Support our team. Who gives a shit about them in the grand picture?

 

[spurs-r-us]

Only against Arsenal.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

I know my opinion on may be very unpopular here. But I find the chants uncomfortable. I enjoy taking my oldest (3.5yrs) and look forward to taking my youngest (15m) to the Lane and would be really sad if they sang such songs. Why? Because going to watch Spurs play is about experiencing the atmosphere, enjoying the glory of Tottenham Hotspur and wanting our boys to aim high.

Football is a game that brings people together and generates healthy competition and banter - and I enjoy taking part in it. But it's also about respect; respecting the rules, fellow professional and fellow supporters. Sometimes the line is grey and it may be crossed, but that's ok. Some of our supporters however want to cross the line between banter and offence regularly. I think they need to move on. Sol Campbell was a good player for Spurs but has a nasty stain on his career and quite rightly is remembered by many non-Spurs fans not just for his footballing achievements but his mercenary-like behaviour in securing a move away. That's enough for me.

I want us to ignore him as an irrelevance in our new future. Sure, when he comes out and brings stuff up, that's different and I understand reactions to him but he did something 'bad' in a footballing arena - he didn't commit a crime, harm someone etc (like some footballers who are vilified far less).

We pride ourselves as fans who not only enjoy and want glory and success but want it achieved in the right way, playing beautiful football. I also want us as fans to follow this theme in our support - to do it the right way. Through thick and thin but not involving the unsavoury aspects of being a fan like hooliganism, racism, homophobia and like.

Let's eclipse the memory that, tbh was a bloody long time ago.

Benefit of sitting in the North Lower on Saturday was that it's the family stand, so there was very little offensive singing going on. We could hear the Sol song, but other than his name, couldn't make out what was actually being sung.
I'm all for the tribal nature of the game, but it's also the main reason I very rarely consider taking my 10 & 8 yr old kids along. Their first game at WHL was the first leg of the Basle Europa game in 2012 and they were unfortunate enough to witness a full-on punch-up between 2 couples who'd had too much to drink. It actually scared the shit out of them!!
Even on Saturday, across the aisle there was very nearly a fight between a couple of women!

When the "Stand Up if you Hate Arsenal" song started, the majority of comments around us were along the lines of "why??". Yes, a number of other clubs fans do the same (and I'm sure their lot did it yesterday), but it is small-mindedness from the fans. It's a defensive song that basically shows fear of another team. Why not just sing songs about our team and players - there was VERY little of that on Saturday.

My kids have been to games at Milton Keynes & Cambridge United and the atmosphere there is so far removed from the WHL experience, that other than obviously being Spurs fans, I'd rather they continued going to those grounds.