The curious case of Juan Mata

[dk-yid]

You're right, there's no way he could ever cut it for a successful club.........oh wait!

World Cup
European Championship
U21 European Championship
U19 European Championship
Champions League
Europa League
2 x FA Cup
Copa del Rey

Isn't that more trophies than our entire squad has achieved collectively?

Before anyone says he has just been lucky to play in strong teams:

UEFA European Under-21 Championship Golden Player: 2011
UEFA European Under-21 Championship Bronze Boot: 2011
UEFA European Under-21 Championship Team of the Tournament: 2011
Chelsea Player of the Year: 2011–12, 2012–13
Premier League Player of the Month: October 2012
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2012–13

To be fair the bulk of those are not recent. I'd take Mata anno 2012/13 in a a heart beat but at the price he would demand I believe there are better achievable options currently

 

[Neon_Knight_]

To be fair the bulk of those are not recent. I'd take Mata anno 2012/13 in a a heart beat but at the price he would demand I believe there are better achievable options currently

I don't think he should be one of our primary targets either, but some of the comments flying around are pretty harsh and inaccurate.

 

[double0]

Question. Mata or Gotze?

 

[TropicalYid]

Question. Mata or Gotze?

Gotze

 

[Sir Henry]

You're right, there's no way he could ever cut it for a successful club.........oh wait!

World Cup
European Championship
U21 European Championship
U19 European Championship
Champions League
Europa League
2 x FA Cup
Copa del Rey

Isn't that more trophies than our entire squad has achieved collectively?

Before anyone says he has just been lucky to play in strong teams:

UEFA European Under-21 Championship Golden Player: 2011
UEFA European Under-21 Championship Bronze Boot: 2011
UEFA European Under-21 Championship Team of the Tournament: 2011
Chelsea Player of the Year: 2011–12, 2012–13
Premier League Player of the Month: October 2012
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2012–13

I'm not sure what's worse, the fact you think he's good or the fact you went to all that trouble to get that info.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

Off the ball, is Mata actually worse than all of Chadli, Pritchard, N'Jie, Son and Mason? If not, he'd be a good addition to our squad, as he's certainly better than them on the ball. We won't be able to start Eriksen, Lamela and Alli every game...

I can see where you are coming from, and I would take him over all of those players you mentioned in the first 11. He is class on his day, but if we have a team who are doing disciplined pressing, could he do it? Mourinho thought not, can Poch get him to do it? I would be suprised. Player for player, I would say he is better than all our attackiing midfielders bar Eriksen, but in reality would he fit into the 'team' ethos, that is what I am getting at.

And although I would not say Son are Mason are not great off the ball, they are disciplined and keep their positions, one thing Mata struggles with is positoning, in fact I don't remember him ever being in the defensive third or even making a tackle in his career.

 

[voxy28]

Gotze

he is on 8.5M pounds a yr.... more than Gotze

 

[dontcallme]

I'm not sure what's worse, the fact you think he's good or the fact you went to all that trouble to get that info.