The Poch has been confirmed as manager thread!

[Spurger King]

I'm not sure what's scarier...that picture of Pochettino looking like a concussed chipendale, or the news that we might have actually considered Mancini?

At least @thinktank and @Mr Pink have a new screensaver

 

[beats1]

All fair points, again as I mentioned my posts are mainly aimed at those that flat out dismiss Poch in favour of FDB rather than those who see the merits of both and prefer one over the other. I think both could do a pretty decent job considering our points total from what can only be described a shambolic season. Imagine what we could do with some organisation and some clear direction...

There is no doubt that I think Poch is an upgrade but having seen what made him do well at Southampton and Espanyol it was time, lack of major changes in the squad and keeping his best players as well as having a good upstairs.

All things that are unlikely to change. As said before if he signs poch and it doesnt work Levy needs to assess his position and his advisors. As ultimately he was the one that signed the managers off the back off a great year.

What Ward-Prowse says about Pochettino and training is really interesting. Maybe his gym sessions also contribute towards Southampton having one of the best injury records last season.

Saints lost 708 days to injury last season. Spurs lost 1441 days!!

See this might not be a great thing as the squad was pissed off when Ramos banned the Ketchup but ramos did have the squad fit and probably the best shape I have seen a spurs squad.

 

[spurs9]

There is no doubt that I think Poch is an upgrade but having seen what made him do well at Southampton and Espanyol it was time, lack of major changes in the squad and keeping his best players as well as having a good upstairs.

All things that are unlikely to change. As said before if he signs poch and it doesnt work Levy needs to assess his position and his advisors. As ultimately he was the one that signed the managers off the back off a great year.

See this might not be a great thing as the squad was pissed off when Ramos banned the Ketchup but ramos did have the squad fit and probably the best shape I have seen a spurs squad.

Reading King's book, it was more the way Ramos went about it.

 

[Syn_13]

Reading King's book, it was more the way Ramos went about it.

He tied the ketchup bottle to a stick and attached it the players' heads whilst on the treadmill?

 

[spurs9]

He tied the ketchup bottle to a stick and attached it the players' heads whilst on the treadmill?

No they stuck it up Hutton's arse and said "you want it, go and get it" (through a translator).

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Pochettino out !!! This is almost as insane as when we hired Avb. It was obvious it would fail then and it is obvious now. He hasn't scored any higher than 20% in any fans poll, he hasn't achieved absolutely zero with every team he has been with and no other managerless team in the country has even considered him for their job yet somehow, despite his previous record it seem Daniel Levy knows better than everybody else with this bloke.
Then there is the smattering of fans on this forum who actually think 'its exciting times'. Jesus Christ this is utter utter madness. This is another golden opportunity to hire the right man and another opportunity we are going to mess up. I hope all you Poch fans will come back on this thread in a year when we are looking for our next manager. So well done everybody, another disaster of a year on the way then..............

 

[EQP]

What Ward-Prowse says about Pochettino and training is really interesting. Maybe his gym sessions also contribute towards Southampton having one of the best injury records last season.

Saints lost 708 days to injury last season. Spurs lost 1441 days!!

Hmmm but we should also factor in that Southampton had less fixtures, less traveling and more days to rest during their season. Will be interesting to see how Poch approaches the EL this season, knowing that his high tempo style needs to be paired with adequate rest times in order not to burn the players out.

 

[RuskyM]

oh for fucks sake we're in the europa league too aren't we

do we have to bother with next season. can't we just try this one again

 

[GutBucket]

Hmmm but we should also factor in that Southampton had less fixtures, less traveling and more days to rest during their season. Will be interesting to see how Poch approaches the EL this season, knowing that his high tempo style needs to be paired with adequate rest times in order not to burn the players out.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...ks-europa-league-qualification-can-kill-teams

"It hasn't changed. In my opinion the Europa League is not an attractive competition

"That is my personal opinion, I'm not talking about anyone else, it's my personal opinion and as Mauricio Pochettino there is no interest in the Europa League.

"The ambition of course is to one day play the Champions League and that I would be interested in.

"That is my opinion, not the club's opinion.

"I think it is a competition that kills you in the sense that there are a lot of mid-table teams that put a lot of effort into the Europa League and then are not able to do anything in the league, they are not able to compensate for that bad run of form in the league so it brings them down."

 

[Spurger King]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...ks-europa-league-qualification-can-kill-teams

"It hasn't changed. In my opinion the Europa League is not an attractive competition

"That is my personal opinion, I'm not talking about anyone else, it's my personal opinion and as Mauricio Pochettino there is no interest in the Europa League.

"The ambition of course is to one day play the Champions League and that I would be interested in.

"That is my opinion, not the club's opinion.

"I think it is a competition that kills you in the sense that there are a lot of mid-table teams that put a lot of effort into the Europa League and then are not able to do anything in the league, they are not able to compensate for that bad run of form in the league so it brings them down."

Nice find. Will be very interesting to see what people make of that, though obviously this would have been pre-CL qualification for the winners.

 

[EQP]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...ks-europa-league-qualification-can-kill-teams

"It hasn't changed. In my opinion the Europa League is not an attractive competition

"That is my personal opinion, I'm not talking about anyone else, it's my personal opinion and as Mauricio Pochettino there is no interest in the Europa League.

"The ambition of course is to one day play the Champions League and that I would be interested in.

"That is my opinion, not the club's opinion.

"I think it is a competition that kills you in the sense that there are a lot of mid-table teams that put a lot of effort into the Europa League and then are not able to do anything in the league, they are not able to compensate for that bad run of form in the league so it brings them down."

Ahhhhh, good find. Hope he can sell this to Levy. I would much rather see Poch use the kids/backup players in the EL and focus on the League and domestic cups.

 

[yojambo]

Think a lot of peoples attitude will change now you can qualify for the CL by winning EL.

Say we were to make the final and the other team qualifies for CL via their league position, does that mean we would get CL just for making the final?

 

[beats1]

Think a lot of peoples attitude will change now you can qualify for the CL by winning EL.

Say we were to make the final and the other team qualifies for CL via their league position, does that mean we would get CL just for making the final?

I dont, I think it will much of the same until you get to the knockouts where all the people from the CL wouldnt give a shit but those not doing well in the league almost risking their league form to get that prize the further they get

 

[Spurger King]

Say we were to make the final and the other team qualifies for CL via their league position, does that mean we would get CL just for making the final?

No. It's only a route into the CL if the team that wins it hasn't already qualified for it via the league. Makes sense really, as there's a good chance that both finalists will have qualified for the CL already.

I imagine that a team winning it that hadn't already qualified for the CL would take the place of one of the minnows in the qualifying round, or something along those lines.

 

[millsey]

You do realise we've gone down a goal and come back to winning the game without changing anything players wise?

Mainly due to the fact Tim would never make a bloody substitution, but the point still stands.

Going a goal down, does not require a plan B to get back in the game. You will concede goals in football, I imagine that is assumed in pre game tactics

 

[millsey]

There is no doubt that I think Poch is an upgrade but having seen what made him do well at Southampton and Espanyol it was time, lack of major changes in the squad and keeping his best players as well as having a good upstairs.

All things that are unlikely to change. As said before if he signs poch and it doesnt work Levy needs to assess his position and his advisors. As ultimately he was the one that signed the managers off the back off a great year.

See this might not be a great thing as the squad was pissed off when Ramos banned the Ketchup but ramos did have the squad fit and probably the best shape I have seen a spurs squad.

Agree big appointment, but people keep saying Levy will have to go ect, he's not going anywhere if he gets this wrong. It's like saying if virgin have a bad year Branson has to take a look at himself

 

[scat1620]

Being truthful, in the ENIC era the two managers that have had me most excited when they joined were Ramos and AVB, due to the glowing media profiles of the two men before they joined Spurs. And I ended up being very disappointed with how the reality matched up to the sales pitch with both of them.

I was also underwhelmed at the appointments of Jol and Redknapp, and they have turned out to be the two managers whose tenures I enjoyed the most under ENIC.

So I guess what I'm saying is that I don't know my arse from my elbow at the time a manager is appointed.

(Slight preference for Pochettino this time round, btw.)

EDIT - whoops, wrong thread! This was supposed to go in the Which Managerial Appointment Were You Most Excited By thread. Seems I truly don't know my arse from my elbow!

 

[E17yid]

I won't be surprised to hear him change his tune re the Europa. Levy won't like it if he comes out and and says that shit. Neither do I


We've got a big enough squad to compete in both the league and Europa. We just need a manager to effectively manage the squad. I.e don't do a Boas and pick our strongest 11, fly them out to Dtronsky in outer Siberia and then pick the same 11 players when we have a league match 2 days later.

 

[spursfan77]

That last one is something I've alluded to in previous posts. My impression from watching Southampton quite a few times is that they are intense press/high line/high tempo on the ball until energy runs low and it all drops off, which is why they are the worst in the league for losing leads and chasing games. The second half/final third of games is not being managed very well (to be honest, I think Rodgers Liverpool were very similar, they just have better individuals creatively who can still capitalise on the break when in that passive phase).

I think Pochettino learned a lot from Bielsa, who's teams were very similar - high tempo, hard press etc.

Klopp's Dortmund often seem to vary the tempo/press/defensive line throughout a match or depending on opponent.

If pochettino is a good manager then he should be looking at why the team drop off later in games and do something about it like you mention about klopp, rather than just do double training sessions increase fitness. Hopefully if he came to us he'd have an answer to this.

 

[spursfan77]

Think a lot of peoples attitude will change now you can qualify for the CL by winning EL.

Say we were to make the final and the other team qualifies for CL via their league position, does that mean we would get CL just for making the final?

I wouldn't worry, knowing us we'd win it and finish fourth!