The Poch has been confirmed as manager thread!

[barry]

The succinct case for Poch. Levy, Lewis and the board want him. He wants us. He will be our new manager unless we have a catastrophe of Godzilla proportions. Case closed. I thank you.

 

[jambreck]

Wouldn't you be better off using the cash on activities where there is more likelyhood that you will be entertained for that kind of financial commitment? I'm not saying it's wrong to want to be entertained but football is pretty unpredictable and it takes two to tango. If the other side is only interested in parking the bus then it's hard to be entertaining.

You can't help yourself.

You're being contrarian once again, just for the sake of it!

Of course things don't always click. Of course opposition teams sometimes come just to kill the game and steal a point. But what matters is the Spurs team's intent. So long as they are trying to play good, attacking football regardless of what the other team is doing, then my money is well spent.

The argument that I was countering was one which claimed that the end justified the means. In other words, if the Spurs team was the one stifling games with some kind of latter day catenaccio but somehow eking out dull 1-0 wins over and over, yankspurs' insists that we should all be happy.

Well, I wouldn't be. Simple as that.

 

[thinktank]

All I want to know is why it takes us soooo long to get anything done. Transfers, managerial appointments, you name it and we'll take 5 times longer than any other club to get it done. (I actually don't know if that's true or not, just venting. Still, I'm of the opinion you don't fire a manager unless you have the next one lined up, something Levy and co. don't seem to agree with.)

Cause baldy is a fiddly little fucker. Detail-meister when it comes to contracts...which is fair enough at times, but you're right this one should be sorted. Too important to pfaff about.

 

[Teddy Klinsmann]

FDB would build an on-going and long term legacy, but we don't do those.

So lets get Poch and enjoy some good footy for a season or two before he gets sacked and we move on to the next poor sucker.

FDB might be a good manager but you talk of legacies like he has created a dynasty at Ajax. FDB is merely the first team coach. There are the likes of Cruyff etc and others at the club who have produced and nourished through great players over the last 20 years. There are few if any managers who leave a lasting legacy at a club now.

 

[shelfboy68]

Some people being bias?

But to be fair We dont know if Pinocchio Can create a legacy either so No one can yet judge until he does.

 

[Mr Pink]

But to be fair We dont know if Pinocchio Can create a legacy either so No one can yet judge until he does.

But no one has claimed that he will

 

[Spurger King]

But to be fair We dont know if Pinocchio Can create a legacy either so No one can yet judge until he does.

Nail on the head.

I can see plus sides to all of the managers we've been linked with (mainly Benitez, Frank, and Pochettino), as well as down sides.

What I don't like, and what seems to be happening more frequently on here, is the way some people are projecting an imagined idealistic future based on who we appoint (not just Doctor Poch). I believe Benitez to be the least risky of the three, but of course he's still a risk. They all are. It's just that I happen to think (for reasons explained elsewhere) that Pochettino is the biggest risk. Doesn't mean I won't support him.

To be honest I think people saying he's going to do this or do that...click his fingers and get us playing stunning football, and simultaneously transform our weaker players into world beaters, are doing as much damage to fan expectations as people like me predicting an imminent apochalypse.

 

[mill]

Nail on the head.

I can see plus sides to all of the managers we've been linked with (mainly Benitez, Frank, and Pochettino), as well as down sides.

What I don't like, and what seems to be happening more frequently on here, is the way some people are projecting an imagined idealistic future based on who we appoint (not just Doctor Poch). I believe Benitez to be the least risky of the three, but of course he's still a risk. They all are. It's just that I happen to think (for reasons explained elsewhere) that Pochettino is the biggest risk. Doesn't mean I won't support him.

To be honest I think people saying he's going to do this or do that...click his fingers and get us playing stunning football, and simultaneously transform our weaker players into world beaters, are doing as much damage to fan expectations as people like me predicting an imminent apochalypse.

All this talk of dynasties is fairly tale bollocks anyway, we can't EXPECT a manager to do any better than redknapp did given the circumstances involved, finances/stadium etc. Anything else is a bonus

 

[KingNothing]

With the news in the past couple of weeks that agents are working hard for deals to get Pochettino, Shaw and Lallana out of Southampton before making the approaches public I have to feel sorry for Southampton fans, but even more so the Southampton PR team, if all three deals go through how do you spin that news?! Good luck to them!

By giving Osvaldo a new and improved contract. Next.

 

[gerishep]

The succinct case for Poch. Levy, Lewis and the board want him. He wants us. He will be our new manager unless we have a catastrophe of Godzilla proportions. Case closed. I thank you.

How do you know all this.

 

[thinktank]

But no one has claimed that he will

Funny isn't it, all the tino supporters have been saying - by and large - is that we'll have very good football; football played the way we all love it to be played.

Supporters of other candidates condemn tino because he hasn't won anything, rave on (*big box* *little box* *big box* *little box*) about their candidate having won the moon, yet we're then said to be proclaiming that our pick will deliver the earth.

This whole debate is fucking warped. lol It literally is the oddest discourse I've had on this site and that includes any of Archie's poo odyssey threads.

 

[yankspurs]

Can someone please lay out for me the differences between Poch and de Boer other than their resumés? As far as i can tell the main issue between the 2 sides are the style of football.

 

[shelfboy68]

But no one has claimed that he will

I hope for your Sake mr P when this fella comes in he is everything you want as i dont see anything about him that excites me.
To be fair to you along with a few others are mad on him but apart from a good season i think its a very risky appointment he strikes me as another avb who also never had a plan b.
I have read articles on him to keep s balanced view but I find it a very underwhelming signing indeed but its a levy thing he doesnt want too strong a manager like a lvg but someone more managable.
However when he comes in We will have to support him as its the club that comes first but cant help thinking we should have tried to sign an Elvis but ended up with Tommy Steel.

 

[Mr Pink]

I hope for your Sake mr P when this fella comes in he is everything you want as i dont see anything about him that excites me.
To be fair to you along with a few others are mad on him but apart from a good season i think its a very risky appointment he strikes me as another avb who also never had a plan b.
I have read articles on him to keep s balanced view but I find it a very underwhelming signing indeed but its a levy thing he doesnt want too strong a manager like a lvg but someone more managable.
However when he comes in We will have to support him as its the club that comes first but cant help thinking we should have tried to sign an Elvis but ended up with Tommy Steel.

I really don't understand why some are so underwhelmed. I'm excited by the prospect. If he can get us playing like Southampton do, with better overall quality of players, what's not to like?

Its not like that there is flaky evidence of his coaching ability. They've been exceptionally consistent in their style of pay and approach to games.

 

[TheSecretNonFootballer]

Can someone please lay out for me the differences between Poch and de Boer other than their resumés? As far as i can tell the main issue between the 2 sides are the style of football.

De Boer has a bigger head.

That's all I've got.

 

[Yid]

Dear Glazer family, We hate you. Sincerely, Spurs fans everywhere
Give me FdB or Poch, btw. No spanish waiter.

Hrmmm...kay....

Except people will kick up a storm with Benitez because of his style. Not recognizing how successful it is.

Contradict yourself much?

 

[felmani26]

Can someone please lay out for me the differences between Poch and de Boer other than their resumés? As far as i can tell the main issue between the 2 sides are the style of football.

Frank de Boer would be universally accepted by Spurs fans whereas there would be a sizeable and quite possibly, vocal minority that would be sceptical of Pochettino from the outset.

De Boer and his back room staff certainly have more allure but if Pochettino can hit it off with Baldini/Levy akin to his strong relationship with Cortese then I'm equally enthralled at his potential appointment.

 

[Mr Pink]

Frank de Boer would be universally accepted by Spurs fans whereas there would be a sizeable and quite possibly, vocal minority that would be sceptical of Pochettino from the outset.

De Boer and his back room staff certainly have more allure but if Pochettino can hit it off with Baldini/Levy akin to his strong relationship with Cortese then I'm equally enthralled at his potential appointment.

The irony is, if anything, I think Pochettino would have the quicker impact. Although its a moot point, as its just speculating.

 

[shelfboy68]

I really don't understand why some are so underwhelmed. I'm excited by the prospect. If he can get us playing like Southampton do, with better overall quality of players, what's not to like?

Its not like that there is flaky evidence of his coaching ability. They've been exceptionally consistent in their style of pay and approach to games.

He has only had one season to judge him on with some good young players but he did struggle to find a plan b in games when they were behind.
A lot of fans thought We were getting that when avb arrived that We would play like his all conquering porto
Team yet all we did under him was pass it sideways meaning only those sitting in east or west stand would ever See anything.
Personally i would have gone for benitez low risk and a top four manager who always had The beating of mourinho and not many do that on a regular basis or Win a champions League with a very average Liverpool team just think what he could do for us.

 

[Mr Pink]

He has only had one season to judge him on with some good young players but he did struggle to find a plan b in games when they were behind.
A lot of fans thought We were getting that when avb arrived that We would play like his all conquering porto
Team yet all we did under him was pass it sideways meaning only those sitting in east or west stand would ever See anything.
Personally i would have gone for benitez low risk and a top four manager who always had The beating of mourinho and not many do that on a regular basis or Win a champions League with a very average Liverpool team just think what he could do for us.

Its not one season though, its over a season and a half. So its the guts of 18 months in terms of being judged.

AVB's performance at Chelsea should of been a more relevant basis for judgement than porto, with hindsight of course.

Pochettino has improved that side no matter way you look at it, and more importantly he's done so playing a very good brand/style of football.

Of course there are always numerous factors to consider but lots of these factors are hard to determine from the outset...like management style and how it would fit with the playing staff. I'm going on things I've witnessed with my own eyes, and that's the standard of coaching emanating from the football he's had them playing consistently. For me that's the biggest criteria for judgement - IMO.