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The Race for 4th

GMI

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Why is finishing in the top 4 essential?
Some players, not all, have a preference for playing in the Champions League. Kane, for one, would be more agreeable to a new contract if we were still a Champions League club next season.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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No. The true value of getting into the CL is that it prevents our enemies from doing so.

Those guys suck.
Certainly the case last year I was OK about getting 4th or 5th last year but getting 4th over Arsenal was what made it for me.
 

CookieYiddo

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Aug 26, 2019
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I really dont want to see Arsenal in the CL if we aren't there with them. We NEED to get 4th. I cant deal otherwise
 

Cochise

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Aug 8, 2019
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I really dont want to see Arsenal in the CL if we aren't there with them. We NEED to get 4th. I cant deal otherwise
Calm down fella. There was a time not so long ago (it least it feels that way) when European football was not the norm for Spurs fans.
 

Westmorlandspur

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I just hope City keep playing like they did on Tuesday night. Haaland in goal scoring form, De Bruyne back to his best. They are not what they were but a win over Arsenal would mean they can get top in one game.
Arsenal play Palace on Sunday, surely they must be able to get a goal. Law of averages….please.
 

CookieYiddo

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Calm down fella. There was a time not so long ago (it least it feels that way) when European football was not the norm for Spurs fans.
I know mate, i know. I have become accustom to seeing us in there and not them over the past years and i dont wanna go back!
 

Dillspur

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Also gives you a better chance of keeping your best players. The two seasons we failed to reach the champions league were the seasons Kane pushed the hardest to leave.
The only summer I remember Kane trying to leave was the one with Nuno. And I'll always remember Kane's quotes about staying as long as there's ambition, signing Nuno wasn't ambitious. So I don't think you can put Kane wanting to leave on us not getting CL.
 

djhotspur

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The goons haven’t been in the champions league for years but they have managed to build a squad that is likely to win the league this year.

Even when sitting comfortably at the top of the league in January they were still willing to go out and buy Mudryk for circa £70m to push them over he line before Chelsea stepped in. Would we have done that? Would ENIC have sanctioned that kind of spending in January or would they more likely have thought, top4 is is in the bag why risk spending money on a player(s) who could flop.

So yes, the money from the CL is huge, but additional revenue for additional revenue sake doesn’t excite me to anything like the level i would have been with winning even a lousy carabao cup.

It now seems like the only reason we prioritise the Top4 is to give us a better chance of again making the top 4 In the following season.
I think it there was a hell of a lot of luck involved in the goons doing that.
They have a bunch of talents come through their academy plus got very lucky on some young talents like Martinelli, saliba etc.
Signing Jesus and Zinchenko was down to Arteta having a relationship with them from his time at City so he knew first hand how they could improve them. Also, no one thought odegaard would turn out this good.
It was a perfect storm for Arsenal really.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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The only summer I remember Kane trying to leave was the one with Nuno. And I'll always remember Kane's quotes about staying as long as there's ambition, signing Nuno wasn't ambitious. So I don't think you can put Kane wanting to leave on us not getting CL.

It was widely reported he wanted to leave the summer before as well but Levy refused / Mourinho convinced him to stay.
 

Dillspur

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It was widely reported he wanted to leave the summer before as well but Levy refused / Mourinho convinced him to stay.

this kinda proves my point. An ambitions appointment was able to convince Kane to stay and he lead the league in goals and assists.
 

hero

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We are done. I am so pessimistic about top 4 in the future. City, United, Chelsea, Newcastle will be ok. Well be surprised to see us above 5th. Our academy is shit. Our scouting before Paratici had been non-existent. We cannot outspend mentioned above clubs. I just do not see how the club are going to compete even for CL.
 

GioW

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Aug 22, 2011
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4 point swing towards Newcastle in the 2 games from 93 minutes +.

That's all she wrote
 

spursfan1991

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Jul 3, 2008
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Still in it but getting harder:

Home games:

BHA
Bournemouth
Man u
Palace
Brentford

Away Games:
Everton
Newcastle
Liverpool
Villa
Leeds

To match last seasons 71 points, we'll need to win 7 games and draw 1 with 2 defeats. It will be possible to finish 4th with 66 points as that has has happened in the past but that will need 5 wins and 2 draws.

Bournemouth and Palace look the only gimmes in that above list. It is all about momentum, need to find it somehow.
 

daveduvet

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Oct 6, 2008
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Still in it but getting harder:

Home games:

BHA
Bournemouth
Man u
Palace
Brentford

Away Games:
Everton
Newcastle
Liverpool
Villa
Leeds

To match last seasons 71 points, we'll need to win 7 games and draw 1 with 2 defeats. It will be possible to finish 4th with 66 points as that has has happened in the past but that will need 5 wins and 2 draws.

Bournemouth and Palace look the only gimmes in that above list. It is all about momentum, need to find it somehow.
Cheers. Very tough run-in both home & away
 

hero

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May 23, 2015
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Still in it but getting harder:

Home games:

BHA
Bournemouth
Man u
Palace
Brentford

Away Games:
Everton
Newcastle
Liverpool
Villa
Leeds

To match last seasons 71 points, we'll need to win 7 games and draw 1 with 2 defeats. It will be possible to finish 4th with 66 points as that has has happened in the past but that will need 5 wins and 2 draws.

Bournemouth and Palace look the only gimmes in that above list. It is all about momentum, need to find it somehow.
This calculation doesn't make sense. We lose when we must win. Our performance is so inconsistent...
 
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