I dont know what he is on. First he said he's worth 14 million, then he say's he agrees with your valuation of 6-8 million, so what are YOU arguing for.
But of course...we're wrong....
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I dont know what he is on. First he said he's worth 14 million, then he say's he agrees with your valuation of 6-8 million, so what are YOU arguing for.
But of course...we're wrong....
ChRiStOpHe
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And still... :lol:
I'm not gunna say anything stupid. Though I will finish with this:
SpursCommunity has always has its ups and downs. The quality of posts soar and diminish a number of times every year, and have done every year since I've been here. It's the same across the board too - Spurs Chat, the General forums, Chat etc. Right now, Spurs Chat is awash with people, like yourselves, who refuse to read what anyone else has added. The current breed of posters have no interest in taking in what poster_A has written, because that's too much work. It's far easier to skim, get a geeeneral gist, and then reply without thought, direction, or most annoying of all, anything new.
For the love of God people, a debate is so much richer for people taking a second to reflect on what poster_A is actually trying to say. I myself have gone from a regular poster, to a regular lurker, and more recent, an irregular lurker. The times of interesting, considered debate are passing, and I'm getting less and less enjoyment out of watching people post replies without so much as a thought to what is being said.
All if takes is a few new posters to invigorate the forums again. They'll arrive, and others will go, as they do year after year. I just hope is that they're turning their computers on as we speak.
I'm not gunna say anything stupid. Though I will finish with this:
SpursCommunity has always has its ups and downs. The quality of posts soar and diminish a number of times every year, and have done every year since I've been here. It's the same across the board too - Spurs Chat, the General forums, Chat etc. Right now, Spurs Chat is awash with people, like yourselves, who refuse to read what anyone else has added. The current breed of posters have no interest in taking in what poster_A has written, because that's too much work. It's far easier to skim, get a geeeneral gist, and then reply without thought, direction, or most annoying of all, anything new.
For the love of God people, a debate is so much richer for people taking a second to reflect on what poster_A is actually trying to say. I myself have gone from a regular poster, to a regular lurker, and more recent, an irregular lurker. The times of interesting, considered debate are passing, and I'm getting less and less enjoyment out of watching people post replies without so much as a thought to what is being said.
All if takes is a few new posters to invigorate the forums again. They'll arrive, and others will go, as they do year after year. I just hope is that they're turning their computers on as we speak.
ghetto_spur
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Punctuations is the difference between having your mates come for dinner and having your mate's come for dinner.
credit - sickapedia.
Take your head out your arse. 2 of us have seen you completely contradict yourself, and you try and hide it with this protentious bullshit.
I had read the thread. How did I determine that the thread had an average value of 20M for hudd without reading the lot first? Did I guess?
Not to mention the hypocrisy. You judged Bentleys form on the last 8 games of the season, without really thinking about his form then, which was very up and down. You then justified it with two newspaper articles from before this period even started!!!!
If you can't stand the heat......
ChRiStOpHe
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What I can't stand is thick, ignorant ****s who don't read what either the original poster or myself have to say.
Again hypocritical, I just said how I read the whole, thread, yet you chose to ignore that, despite calling anyone who did the same, a thick, ignorant ****. If thats how you want to label yourself, I'd advise to have more self worth. Maybe some psychology...
Thread started by saying "what would you consider a good offer too good to turn down" For me Bentley, 7 million, drive him there. help him look at houses, show him the local brass house. Cos he is shit.
Then for you to deny that you said this....
Then this....
And then this, Re. EastLondonyid's valuation of 6-8 million....
Show's that either, you think everyone on here is retarded (my IQ is 142), or you can't count up to 14.
EastLondonYid
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Stop throwing your toys out mate, your looking quite childish today.
your whole argument is full of contradictions!
even the fact that you said you hate capitals...and your name ChRiStOpHe....
which has got 5 capitals in ...your a very mixed up one....:duh:
i said 5 not 14 :rofl:
ChRiStOpHe
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I really ain't lookin' for a slagging match. But you guys do wear away at me :-(
I did read your post, and did see your claim to have read the whole thread. Which pleases me. I still don't understand though how neither your or the other fella who was joining in earlier can get your head around the concept of the players value to you or I personally, and that of their true market value.
I have no issue with you rating Darren Bent, nor do I care a great deal that neither of you rate David Bentley. What has irked me is that, despite my relentless efforts to show you the difference between the 2 values, you either don't want to read it, or simply fail to understand it.
I'll try and outline it one more time, because it's something you should really be able to grasp <noshyouoff>with such a high IQ</noshyouoff>.
To me (Chris, Stophe, Tophe, ChRiStOpHe), I would be disappointed if we were to sell Bentley for under £14m. However, and this is where I get annoyed, because neither of you pick up on it, David Bentley is not worth £14m in todays market. If he were to sell today, he would probably go for around £8m. I've said this numerous times, but it keeps getting ignored, and as a result, I got the 'ump.
You're*.
Figures...
EastLondonYid
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utter tosh...you were quoted valuing beNtLeY at 14m....once we asked you why...you came out with a lot of bUlL...aFtEr YOU WERE BLOWN OUT.
aRe yOu A gRoUNdSmAn ....cos you keep moving the goalposts...
anyway your boring me now:sleepy:
ChRiStOpHe
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(less than) £14m:
The price that I, ChRiStOpHe, would be be disappointed to see him sold at.
£8m:
The price that I, ChRiStOpHe, think he would roughly sell at in todays market.
Please tell me which part of that you're struggling with :lol:
guiltyparty
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Not that it matters. I'm a bloody newspaper sub and I make typos all the time, it's what quick typing on forums between doing work is all about. When you start picking people up on errors in their typing on a casual messageboard, you know your argument's gone to shit really
Think these are far more realistic values if you don't include Manchester City in the spending - think you have to realise that prices are in general coming down, some of your valuations are way off.
EastLondonYid
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1 GK Heurelho Gomes £23m
2 DF Alan Hutton £8m
3 MF Gareth Bale £32m
4 DF Younes Kaboul £14m
5 MF David Bentley £14m
6 MF Tom Huddlestone £20m
7 MF Aaron Lennon £20m
8 MF Jermaine Jenas £11m
9 FW Roman Pavlyuchenko £12m
10 FW Robbie Keane £8m
11 MF Rafael van der Vaart £29m
12 MF Wilson Palacios £14m
13 DF William Gallas £3m
14 MF Luka Modrić £32m
15 FW Peter Crouch £14m
16 DF Kyle Naughton £2m
17 FW Giovani dos Santos £6m
18 FW Jermain Defoe £16m
19 DF Sébastien Bassong £10m
20 DF Michael Dawson £13m
21 MF Niko Kranjčar £8m
22 DF Vedran Ćorluka £8m
23 GK Carlo Cudicini £1m
24 MF Jamie O'Hara £5m
26 DF Ledley King £0*
30 MF Sandro £20m
32 DF Benoît Assou-Ekotto £14m
* Would not be 'sold'. Will probably leave to retire.
Added them up in my head, so may be wrong, but got a total of £377m
DoNt SEe tHaT there mate..........goalposts moved later...
anyway...no disrespect but....:hand:.....this is getting sIlLy...
Couldn't agree more, I was poking fun at the English police too.
In fairness to me, you didn't mention that in the posts that were replying to my posts, that were replying to your posts, that were replying to my posts......
But fine, thats a fairer assessment. I think that we'll all be dissappoint if, or when that happens, because it's a definative admission that signing him was a massive bollock up.
ChRiStOpHe
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Agreed.
My issue wasn't so much with you. At least you put the Darren Bent argument forward well. My issue is pretty much that I explained my reasons for Bentley's price in my 2nd post, and quoted the figures in my 3rd post (on the same page, with my 1st post being the list itself), and yet no one bothered to listen when I said it time, and time, and time again
Oh well :beer:
WexfordTownSpur
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to many drugs mate:duh:
Raxscallion
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Quite.Trying? Right now, you have no idea. Don't talk to me about trying...
I truly despise CAPS, but allow me to break the habit of a lifetime, just once.
IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH MARKET VALUE.
IT IS SIMPLY THE AMOUNT WE WOULD, INDIVIDUALLY, FEEL COMPENSATED FOR IF THEY WERE TO LEAVE!
Sorry about that.
I've said numerous times that we would not get £14m for him. I've even given his true-market value as £8m. Yet you and Maske2g insist on repeatedly brushing over my posts and arguing the same, incorrect statement over and over and over... and frankly, it's driving me semi-nuts
*too ;-)
Flatters
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Stophe, I've had these sort of problems for years. Mostly with my friends who support other teams. I can't remember the player in question at the time, I think it was Lennon, but another team was linked with buying him for £15m or so, and I told my friend that we shouldn't accept anything less than £25m for him, and he thought I was valueing Lennon as one of the most expensive players around at the time and that someone would actually pay £25m for him, but that wasn't what I was saying at all. I was just saying that if someone offered us £15m, that we shouldn't take it, and only if they actually wanted him for £25m that they could possibly sign him. He just couldn't understand what I was saying and just couldn't assume anything other than me being a biased Tottenham fan, thinking our players were worth more than everyone else's. Idiot.
It's like now, Lennon has dropped in form, so say hypothetically no one would pay more than £5m for him. Does that mean we value him at £5m? Of course it doesn't. We would still value him at at least £20m (I would hope) because we know that he's still awesome and will regain his form again.
A player is worth only what their club is willing to sell them for. Otherwise would Real Madrid really have to pay £80m to sign Ronaldo from Man Utd? I'm sure they wanted to pay a lot less, but Man Utd wouldn't sell him for any less and Real Madrid felt they had to get him at all costs, so stumped up the £80m to sign him.
It's like now, Lennon has dropped in form, so say hypothetically no one would pay more than £5m for him. Does that mean we value him at £5m? Of course it doesn't. We would still value him at at least £20m (I would hope) because we know that he's still awesome and will regain his form again.
A player is worth only what their club is willing to sell them for. Otherwise would Real Madrid really have to pay £80m to sign Ronaldo from Man Utd? I'm sure they wanted to pay a lot less, but Man Utd wouldn't sell him for any less and Real Madrid felt they had to get him at all costs, so stumped up the £80m to sign him.
