What did Ekotto do ?

[C0YS]

The quenelle is anti-Semitic it is not Nazi though, it is Zionist conspiracy based crap not advocating genocide. It also became massively popular in France through people who didn't really understand its significance. It just kind of followed and really was enacted by people who saw it as just anti-establishment. BAE has said that he did not think the quenelle was anti-Semitic at the time and has said he wouldn't of made his statement supporting Anelka if he thought/knew it could be interpreted as such. While this was not really an apology I think one should I've him the benefit of doubt here. He wouldn't be the only one to have not really examined the quenelle's meaning.

Also there is a big difference between anti-Zionism and antisemitism the quenelle is antisemitic because the logic of the creator is veiling his antisemitism through anti-zionism. Furthermore, he is not addressing any of the questions that emerge from zionism (for example is Zionism compatible with the rights of populations contemporary existing in the land, and if not why should a certain group of people get priority over another?) he is just using the word to support his warped views.

Lastly I was fully in support for BAE losin it in the world cup, in the sense I'd of done the same. He was absolutely right, the player infront of him disregarded previously agreed tactics, after running into the opposition failed for the 20103 time and showed that player cared more for his own personal glory than the good of the team. I'd of flipped.

 

[DiamondLites]

Cracking sneaker collection though...

 

[DiscoD1882]

After a match last season I was on the train home and sat next to me was the spurs coach driver, we got into a conversation about players and he said that he found BAE to be a cancer in the squad. did what he pleased and was not bothered about football at all. one thing he said was that during an away game he refused to leave the coach as he was watching a film and stayed on the coach until it had finished. They also said that Holtby was a massive disruption to the squad and annoyed everybody with his childish antics. he's gone and BAE is nowhere near the first team. Just thought id share that with you. Nothing earth shattering.

 

[sheringmann]

No, sorry. I won't give you a break, and I don't have to google anything. They can make up false excuses in hindsight as much as they want. To even remotely question the link between the quenelle and anti-zionism is at the very best ignorant.

Ekotto:

"I have always said that when I tweeted Nicholas Anelka I was congratulating him on an anti-establishment gesture and not on an anti-Semitic gesture," the Cameroon international said.

"I am pleased that the panel has found this to be true and I want to assure Spurs fans that I would never knowingly behave in a racist or anti-Semitic manner."

So there...he says he is not a nazi. In some cases the quenelle has also been used as an anti-establishment. Its not a reason to be frozen out of world football......lots of footballers have shown the nazi-salute : Bosnich, Di Canio, Zarate. Then we have Suarez (racist), Terry (racist), Tonev (racist),and probably other ones...even King and Woodgate has had accusation of racism against them. Did you check Nasri? He also did the quenelle...no one gave a fuss..

Im not saying the quenelle isnt a bad thing, because it is. Im just questioning that to be the reason Ekotto being shut out of football even after he was fined and apologised.

 

[Bulletspur]

For those that have sympathy for Benoit can they explain why Harry didn't want him back at QPR ?

He is the master of his own destruction as far as football is concerned. Talented player who had no interest in his highly paid career. Always going to end in tears.

No one on this thread said or implied that he was squeaky clean or not culpable for his actions. You may want to re read the various posts before you get back on your podium

 

[Main Man]

Isn't he quite an active Tweeter (Twitterer even? I don't know)?

Anyway, can't somebody just ask him...?

I don't have Twitter otherwise I would.

 

[tony_parkes]

Isn't he quite an active Tweeter (Twitterer even? I don't know)?

Anyway, can't somebody just ask him...?

I don't have Twitter otherwise I would.

Just sent him this;

Yo Benoit! Why aren't you playing for Spurs? Are you a Nazi? are you a cancer within the squad? Do you like AVB? What's with the quenelle, do you hate Jews? Did you refuse to get off the team coach because the film hadn't finished? Like your hair by the way.

 

[nbgreene]

lets be honest though... despite all the shenanigans and the quennelle controversy and the fighting... if he'd had a great season for QPR last year he would either be playing at Spurs or somewhere else.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Very good player and really clicked with Bale who was absolutely awful at tracking back during that period, unlike Lennon on the opposite flank helping Corluka, BAE had to do it all alone.

Very good player is stretching it a bit. It is fair to say Bale didn;t give Ekotto enough help, but Lennon didn't give Corluka much more help, it wasn't until AVB arrived that Lennon was made more aware of his responsibilities.

 

[Locotoro]

I think in the middle of the pitch he was quite a cool customer, but I don't think he was a very good defender and I don't think he contributed much going forward either. He did improve over the time he was with us, but I don't think he was a better LB overall than Rose or Davies, and neither of them are world beaters either.

Sorry BC, I'm sure someone has already said this but there was a time when BAE was considered one of the best left backs in the EPL bettered only by Evra and Cole

 

[remember91]

Probably think it was a number of issues and circumstances.

1) Although he did well under the more relaxed regime of Redknapp, he fell out with the stricter AVB regime, which led to his isolation and loan out of the club.

2) During his isolation period, his form was poor and he was involved in a number 'un-proffesional incidents'.

3) By the time Poch took over, he has a limited squad of 25 and the choice was between signing an up and coming young Wales International left back, in good premiership form, development potential and a clean record, or BAE, at the other end of his career, after an average championship season and with two fights and the quenelle stuff behind him.

It seems sad when you consider how good BAE was at his best and how popular he was, but sentiment does not keep a manager in his job or win the club trophies

 

[Blake Griffin]

Exactly…………"football s a job. A means to an end"

it's amusing that some will never let that go despite showing over the years that he has in fact grown to love football and thfc in particular. he's shown more affection towards this club and the surrounding area than many other fan favs over the years.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Sorry BC, I'm sure someone has already said this but there was a time when BAE was considered one of the best left backs in the EPL bettered only by Evra and Cole

Whoever considered him that needs to get their consider valve fixed.

 

[Bulletspur]

it's amusing that some will never let that go despite showing over the years that he has in fact grown to love football and thfc in particular. he's shown more affection towards this club and the surrounding area than many other fan favs over the years.

Exactly! You are wasting your effort as haters will be haters despite the evidence that he has proven that he probably has more moral integrity than most other footballers in the EPL

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

it's amusing that some will never let that go despite showing over the years that he has in fact grown to love football and thfc in particular. he's shown more affection towards this club and the surrounding area than many other fan favs over the years.

His social conscience has got nothing to do with it. It isn't what's keeping him out of the squad. He's unusual on that front and credit to him for doing more on that score than most, but his (well known) feelings about football might go some way toward explaining why he's been happy to sit on his arse or fuck about at QPR for however long its been. Why should it be let go in a thread discussing why he finds himself in his current predicament? It's entirely possible that his laid back attitude has played at least some part in costing him his place in the squad.

And you'd think that someone who suddenly loves football so much would have been on his bike quite some time ago in an attempt to actually play the games he's suddenly found such a great affection for.

So as amusing as it might be for you, it's actually something that might well be very relevant as to the position he now finds himself in. And one could be equally as amused that the occasional tweet saying "COYS LOL" and the like seemingly can't be let go either. So ner…...

 

[spurs-r-us]

Come off it BC. Yes his formed dipped massively after AVB took over, but in the previous seasons he got steadily better, and despite the myth that he would have at least one brain-fart per game, was actually a very consistent and reliable player under Harry.

He could be very cool under pressure, a good passer of the ball, and quite attack-minded. He certainly made a hell of a lot less errors than Rose or Walker.

I loved BAE as much as everyone, but he wasn't 'far better' than Davies and Rose who are both very solid left backs for us.

 

[Hoddse]

Wasn't there itk before the QPR loan about transfers breaking down because of failed medicals?

 

[Bulletspur]

Wasn't there itk before the QPR loan about transfers breaking down because of failed medicals?

I think you may be correct

 

[HotspurFC1950]

I know he divided opinions, some loved him for his philosophical ramblings, some for his exuberant afro. Some (like me) were less impressed with his laissez-faire attitude to defending.

But it is incredibly rare for a footballer to effectively placed on gardening leave for 2 years and told not to come near the club. Also seems very odd that no other club is willing to take him either.

What was his crime ?

Poor attitude it was said. Embarrassing re the other players.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Bentley
Benny
Gomes

And possibly one or two others that don't come to mind. All sat tight for an extended period of time or weren't really wanted elsewhere (Yes I know Gomes has found a club now but it took a while)

What's going on? There's something smelly at the Lane and i'm not talking about Levy's smegma.

*Cue dramatic mysterious music.