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PCozzie

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Fans of this will probably enjoy Larry from South Africa’s letter to Football 365 last week: https://www.football365.com/news/lucky-liverpool-talk-whats-point-tottenham-mailbox

The goons are really sore this summer.
Oh that's a good one too.

So, what does constitute success for us Larry? I'd say driving Arsenal fans to distraction. So much so that they write letters to magazines and long (v. long) online essays about our utter irrelevance.

And long may it continue.
 

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Fans of this will probably enjoy Larry from South Africa’s letter to Football 365 last week: https://www.football365.com/news/lucky-liverpool-talk-whats-point-tottenham-mailbox

The goons are really sore this summer.
The retorts in the following mailbox put that idiot in his place though. These two were my favourites.

What’s the point of Spurs?

…the same as the point of any team: they’re there to entertain football fans.

Some teams happen to win more than others – some of those wins eventually result in trophies…many don’t.

Should we write off the ‘point’ of every club in the lower reaches of league football? What about non-league? At it’s very core, it’s a stupid question to ask.

Ultimately though, it’s meant to be fun. And, (seeing as I’ve bitten) I’ll tell you this: I reckon it’s more fun supporting Spurs right now than Arsenal.

Moreover: what’s the point of supporting a team, if the sole purpose of supporting it is watching them win? What does that say about WHY someone watches them?




…Before I answer his question, can I just ask Larry what is the point of supporting Arsenal from 6000 miles away? Your question seems to be solely predicated on the “content I consume”. I grew up in Tottenham, and my Dad initially took me to Highbury, more Irish players there. He told my mother he didn’t think I enjoyed going to football, when she checked with me, I said all my mates went to Tottenham. Here I am 63 years later still a Tottenham fan, I still have a season ticket and I still meet one of my mates, from primary school days, at the matches for a beer. We have had some great days out, and some really awful ones, when we go, we just want to see the players on the pitch do their best.

When Spurs have a good result, I am really happy, as are my sons, we have some gentle ribbing with fans of other teams, which we get back in our turn. In my time as a Spurs fan I have been lucky enough to see them win 1 title, 3 european trophies, the FA Cup 6 times, and the League Cup 3 times. Over the years I have had friends/colleagues who have supported all manner of teams, across the majority of them they probably couldn’t muster that number of trophies between them, but they support their team and enjoy their successes just like I do.

My sons grew up in the days of Alex Ferguson and the United years, and most of their school friends were ”Manyoo” fans, even though most of them would struggle to point to Old Trafford on a map, whereas my three went (in turn) with me and their Grandad, and enjoyed the outing, even the defeats. The happiest day of my Spurs supporting life was when I let my 3rd son have my ticket to Wembley, which meant my 3 lads were there to see the League Cup win over Chelsea. It’s the only trophy they’ve seen Spurs win, but they have a really happy memory to treasure.

Because they currently have more pressing financial issues than buying Spurs tickets, we occasionally meet at local non league grounds. My eldest has just named his son, my first grandson, “Hugo Patryk”. At the recent North London derby, Pat Jennings (Look him up Larry) appeared at half time in the same goal as Hugo Lloris had been in, I was quite emotional as the two keepers my son had name checked were in the same goal on the same night.

Thing is Larry, my sons and I are what are disparagingly known as “legacy fans” we don’t just “consume content” we actually, you know, go to football matches. I have tried to briefly highlight some things in my life which have given me an enjoyable distraction from the grind of growing up, earning a living, bringing up 3 lads and facing retirement. That Larry is the point of Tottenham, and every other football club. Perhaps you might bear this in mind when you next check out Bay Stars FC or Michau Warriors FC, instead of “consuming content” from 6000 miles away
Jim French (Spurs since ’59) Herts
 

PCozzie

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The retorts in the following mailbox put that idiot in his place though. These two were my favourites.

What’s the point of Spurs?

…the same as the point of any team: they’re there to entertain football fans.

Some teams happen to win more than others – some of those wins eventually result in trophies…many don’t.

Should we write off the ‘point’ of every club in the lower reaches of league football? What about non-league? At it’s very core, it’s a stupid question to ask.

Ultimately though, it’s meant to be fun. And, (seeing as I’ve bitten) I’ll tell you this: I reckon it’s more fun supporting Spurs right now than Arsenal.

Moreover: what’s the point of supporting a team, if the sole purpose of supporting it is watching them win? What does that say about WHY someone watches them?




…Before I answer his question, can I just ask Larry what is the point of supporting Arsenal from 6000 miles away? Your question seems to be solely predicated on the “content I consume”. I grew up in Tottenham, and my Dad initially took me to Highbury, more Irish players there. He told my mother he didn’t think I enjoyed going to football, when she checked with me, I said all my mates went to Tottenham. Here I am 63 years later still a Tottenham fan, I still have a season ticket and I still meet one of my mates, from primary school days, at the matches for a beer. We have had some great days out, and some really awful ones, when we go, we just want to see the players on the pitch do their best.

When Spurs have a good result, I am really happy, as are my sons, we have some gentle ribbing with fans of other teams, which we get back in our turn. In my time as a Spurs fan I have been lucky enough to see them win 1 title, 3 european trophies, the FA Cup 6 times, and the League Cup 3 times. Over the years I have had friends/colleagues who have supported all manner of teams, across the majority of them they probably couldn’t muster that number of trophies between them, but they support their team and enjoy their successes just like I do.

My sons grew up in the days of Alex Ferguson and the United years, and most of their school friends were ”Manyoo” fans, even though most of them would struggle to point to Old Trafford on a map, whereas my three went (in turn) with me and their Grandad, and enjoyed the outing, even the defeats. The happiest day of my Spurs supporting life was when I let my 3rd son have my ticket to Wembley, which meant my 3 lads were there to see the League Cup win over Chelsea. It’s the only trophy they’ve seen Spurs win, but they have a really happy memory to treasure.

Because they currently have more pressing financial issues than buying Spurs tickets, we occasionally meet at local non league grounds. My eldest has just named his son, my first grandson, “Hugo Patryk”. At the recent North London derby, Pat Jennings (Look him up Larry) appeared at half time in the same goal as Hugo Lloris had been in, I was quite emotional as the two keepers my son had name checked were in the same goal on the same night.

Thing is Larry, my sons and I are what are disparagingly known as “legacy fans” we don’t just “consume content” we actually, you know, go to football matches. I have tried to briefly highlight some things in my life which have given me an enjoyable distraction from the grind of growing up, earning a living, bringing up 3 lads and facing retirement. That Larry is the point of Tottenham, and every other football club. Perhaps you might bear this in mind when you next check out Bay Stars FC or Michau Warriors FC, instead of “consuming content” from 6000 miles away
Jim French (Spurs since ’59) Herts
Nicely said Jim.
 

TheChosenOne

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The retorts in the following mailbox put that idiot in his place though. These two were my favourites.

What’s the point of Spurs?

…the same as the point of any team: they’re there to entertain football fans.

Some teams happen to win more than others – some of those wins eventually result in trophies…many don’t.

Should we write off the ‘point’ of every club in the lower reaches of league football? What about non-league? At it’s very core, it’s a stupid question to ask.

Ultimately though, it’s meant to be fun. And, (seeing as I’ve bitten) I’ll tell you this: I reckon it’s more fun supporting Spurs right now than Arsenal.

Moreover: what’s the point of supporting a team, if the sole purpose of supporting it is watching them win? What does that say about WHY someone watches them?




…Before I answer his question, can I just ask Larry what is the point of supporting Arsenal from 6000 miles away? Your question seems to be solely predicated on the “content I consume”. I grew up in Tottenham, and my Dad initially took me to Highbury, more Irish players there. He told my mother he didn’t think I enjoyed going to football, when she checked with me, I said all my mates went to Tottenham. Here I am 63 years later still a Tottenham fan, I still have a season ticket and I still meet one of my mates, from primary school days, at the matches for a beer. We have had some great days out, and some really awful ones, when we go, we just want to see the players on the pitch do their best.

When Spurs have a good result, I am really happy, as are my sons, we have some gentle ribbing with fans of other teams, which we get back in our turn. In my time as a Spurs fan I have been lucky enough to see them win 1 title, 3 european trophies, the FA Cup 6 times, and the League Cup 3 times. Over the years I have had friends/colleagues who have supported all manner of teams, across the majority of them they probably couldn’t muster that number of trophies between them, but they support their team and enjoy their successes just like I do.

My sons grew up in the days of Alex Ferguson and the United years, and most of their school friends were ”Manyoo” fans, even though most of them would struggle to point to Old Trafford on a map, whereas my three went (in turn) with me and their Grandad, and enjoyed the outing, even the defeats. The happiest day of my Spurs supporting life was when I let my 3rd son have my ticket to Wembley, which meant my 3 lads were there to see the League Cup win over Chelsea. It’s the only trophy they’ve seen Spurs win, but they have a really happy memory to treasure.

Because they currently have more pressing financial issues than buying Spurs tickets, we occasionally meet at local non league grounds. My eldest has just named his son, my first grandson, “Hugo Patryk”. At the recent North London derby, Pat Jennings (Look him up Larry) appeared at half time in the same goal as Hugo Lloris had been in, I was quite emotional as the two keepers my son had name checked were in the same goal on the same night.

Thing is Larry, my sons and I are what are disparagingly known as “legacy fans” we don’t just “consume content” we actually, you know, go to football matches. I have tried to briefly highlight some things in my life which have given me an enjoyable distraction from the grind of growing up, earning a living, bringing up 3 lads and facing retirement. That Larry is the point of Tottenham, and every other football club. Perhaps you might bear this in mind when you next check out Bay Stars FC or Michau Warriors FC, instead of “consuming content” from 6000 miles away
Jim French (Spurs since ’59) Herts
So many parallels
We lived in Stoke Newington - My old man took me to a few night games at Highbury in the early 1960’s - just because it was a few stops on the bus away - and he was doing the father son thing. He, like myself was Irish not long in London and at weekends he played hurling all over London mostly Eltham in SE London.
I didn’t like it at Highbury and like yourself my mates were Spurs and we began in 66 going to WHL - even moving to Hertfordshire and my kids all became Spurs fans by birth, no choice about it. (Sorry lads and lasses)
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Seen Spurs play just about everywhere in England and many matches in European cities too.
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It’s a way of life.
 

Don_Felipe

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The retorts in the following mailbox put that idiot in his place though. These two were my favourites.

What’s the point of Spurs?

…the same as the point of any team: they’re there to entertain football fans.

Some teams happen to win more than others – some of those wins eventually result in trophies…many don’t.

Should we write off the ‘point’ of every club in the lower reaches of league football? What about non-league? At it’s very core, it’s a stupid question to ask.

Ultimately though, it’s meant to be fun. And, (seeing as I’ve bitten) I’ll tell you this: I reckon it’s more fun supporting Spurs right now than Arsenal.

Moreover: what’s the point of supporting a team, if the sole purpose of supporting it is watching them win? What does that say about WHY someone watches them?




…Before I answer his question, can I just ask Larry what is the point of supporting Arsenal from 6000 miles away? Your question seems to be solely predicated on the “content I consume”. I grew up in Tottenham, and my Dad initially took me to Highbury, more Irish players there. He told my mother he didn’t think I enjoyed going to football, when she checked with me, I said all my mates went to Tottenham. Here I am 63 years later still a Tottenham fan, I still have a season ticket and I still meet one of my mates, from primary school days, at the matches for a beer. We have had some great days out, and some really awful ones, when we go, we just want to see the players on the pitch do their best.

When Spurs have a good result, I am really happy, as are my sons, we have some gentle ribbing with fans of other teams, which we get back in our turn. In my time as a Spurs fan I have been lucky enough to see them win 1 title, 3 european trophies, the FA Cup 6 times, and the League Cup 3 times. Over the years I have had friends/colleagues who have supported all manner of teams, across the majority of them they probably couldn’t muster that number of trophies between them, but they support their team and enjoy their successes just like I do.

My sons grew up in the days of Alex Ferguson and the United years, and most of their school friends were ”Manyoo” fans, even though most of them would struggle to point to Old Trafford on a map, whereas my three went (in turn) with me and their Grandad, and enjoyed the outing, even the defeats. The happiest day of my Spurs supporting life was when I let my 3rd son have my ticket to Wembley, which meant my 3 lads were there to see the League Cup win over Chelsea. It’s the only trophy they’ve seen Spurs win, but they have a really happy memory to treasure.

Because they currently have more pressing financial issues than buying Spurs tickets, we occasionally meet at local non league grounds. My eldest has just named his son, my first grandson, “Hugo Patryk”. At the recent North London derby, Pat Jennings (Look him up Larry) appeared at half time in the same goal as Hugo Lloris had been in, I was quite emotional as the two keepers my son had name checked were in the same goal on the same night.

Thing is Larry, my sons and I are what are disparagingly known as “legacy fans” we don’t just “consume content” we actually, you know, go to football matches. I have tried to briefly highlight some things in my life which have given me an enjoyable distraction from the grind of growing up, earning a living, bringing up 3 lads and facing retirement. That Larry is the point of Tottenham, and every other football club. Perhaps you might bear this in mind when you next check out Bay Stars FC or Michau Warriors FC, instead of “consuming content” from 6000 miles away
Jim French (Spurs since ’59) Herts

Wish Jim's email was engraved on a plaque at the stadium tbh. That's kind of what it's about for most of us, not a sky sports montage.
 

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So many parallels
We lived in Stoke Newington - My old man took me to a few night games at Highbury in the early 1960’s - just because it was a few stops on the bus away - and he was doing the father son thing. He, like myself was Irish not long in London and at weekends he played hurling all over London mostly Eltham in SE London.
I didn’t like it at Highbury and like yourself my mates were Spurs and we began in 66 going to WHL - even moving to Hertfordshire and my kids all became Spurs fans by birth, no choice about it. (Sorry lads and lasses)
.
Seen Spurs play just about everywhere in England and many matches in European cities too.
.
It’s a way of life.


For old timers like us, supporting a team is all about taking the rough with the smooth (and we know all about the rough eh?). Many modern (dare I say plastic) fans seem to have no concept of this whatsoever, and the toys come straight out of the pram at the slightest hiccup. What they don't get at all is that the deeper the lows, the higher the highs when your turn comes around.
 

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For old timers like us, supporting a team is all about taking the rough with the smooth (and we know all about the rough eh?). Many modern (dare I say plastic) fans seem to have no concept of this whatsoever, and the toys come straight out of the pram at the slightest hiccup. What they don't get at all is that the deeper the lows, the higher the highs when your turn comes around.
What they don't get at all is that the deeper the lows, the higher the highs when your turn comes around .as per the end of this season...couldn't agree more
 

TheChosenOne

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For old timers like us, supporting a team is all about taking the rough with the smooth (and we know all about the rough eh?). Many modern (dare I say plastic) fans seem to have no concept of this whatsoever, and the toys come straight out of the pram at the slightest hiccup. What they don't get at all is that the deeper the lows, the higher the highs when your turn comes around.

I've been thinking about it just now, I look back and think maybe the option of Tottenham over Arsenal was not just that Spurs had the early 1960's successes - I think it was a working class Tottenham against the Arsenal, Bank of England stiff upper lip, marble halls and a Metropolitan Police marching band.
For us it was getting a bus up to Tottenham Bus Garage or Bruce Grove mostly, rarely the 149 had room. The walking along with the rest of the many faithful men up the High Road at a faster step than you would have wanted to take.
 

PLTuck

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Just watched the Overlap fan debate 4 on youtube. Comedy gold from full arsenal kit wanker.

What you won? What you won? How many trophies? Blah blah invincibles, What you won?

Answer: More football matches than you over the past 6 years.

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Arsenal blog writing about Arsen..... oh sorry writing about us. A healthy amount of fantasy, truth twisting and trying to convince themselves that we are not going to strengthen.

How they have fallen.
I’m calling house in ‘Arsenal fans talking about spurs’ bingo. This has everything.

Total misunderstanding of our debt situation - tick
Thinks equity investment into the club is a loan - tick
Failure to understand how modern transfers are financed and therefore things whole of said equity investment is going on Romero and Kulu - tick
Doesn’t realise we already bought Bentancur outright not a loan - tick
Thinks having good players is somehow cheating - tick
Thinks we were lucky to the results against city and Liverpool because of shots stats - tick
Doesn’t understand the difference between luck and probability (the Leicester game - we were clearly the better side over the game so hardly luck) - tick
Thinks Perisic is equivalent to Sokratis and Lichensteiner - tick
Thinks we are loading up purely on old players (average age of Cuti, Kulu and Bentancur =23) - tick
General moaning about cards and refs - Lots of ticks

Well played Pedro. I’m glad we haunt your dreams
 

SpartanSpur

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I’m calling house in ‘Arsenal fans talking about spurs’ bingo. This has everything.

Total misunderstanding of our debt situation - tick
Thinks equity investment into the club is a loan - tick
Failure to understand how modern transfers are financed and therefore things whole of said equity investment is going on Romero and Kulu - tick
Doesn’t realise we already bought Bentancur outright not a loan - tick
Thinks having good players is somehow cheating - tick
Thinks we were lucky to the results against city and Liverpool because of shots stats - tick
Doesn’t understand the difference between luck and probability (the Leicester game - we were clearly the better side over the game so hardly luck) - tick
Thinks Perisic is equivalent to Sokratis and Lichensteiner - tick
Thinks we are loading up purely on old players (average age of Cuti, Kulu and Bentancur =23) - tick
General moaning about cards and refs - Lots of ticks

Well played Pedro. I’m glad we haunt your dreams

That article is absolute comedy and you have delightfully ripped it to shreds here. Bravo.

If they think we're going to regress I think they'll have a major shock on their hands next season. I think they'll have a lot more problems in their own house personally...
 

-Afri-Coy-

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I was going to say I can't imagine a guy from south africa being called larry. :LOL:

It's definitely not a common name to say the least.

I personally have never met someone named Larry, but plenty other common English/American names are used here quite a lot.

Larry is a shit name anyway. :sneaky:
 
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