YOUR FORMATION? (Home games against weaker teams)

[Blake Griffin]

aren't all pitches the same size now?

anyway i would go with something like:

lloris
walker whoever vertonghen rose
lennon whoever whoever eriksen
soldado adebayor
​

similar to the modric wonky formation of 09/10.

i'm not tim, honest.

 

[EnfieldYiddo]

Lloris
Walker Chiriches Verts Rose
Capoue
Lamela Holtby Eriksen
Soldado Ade​

 

[NEVILLEB]

We don't play 4-5-1.

We have much better chance of scoring with our current formation than we would with a 442. With that formation we wouldn't even control the play! Just sticking two players closer to the opposition goal makes no difference if you can't even get the ball to make chances for them.

Brilliant!

 

[Pat Rice Spurs fan]

Now Timmy's I'm charge

Lloris
Dawson
Lennon Eriksen Townsend
Lamela Adebayor Soldado Kane Chadli
Defoe
​

 

[Marty]

Now Timmy's I'm charge

Lloris
Dawson
Lennon Eriksen Townsend
Lamela Adebayor Soldado Kane Townsend
Defoe
​

Andros' so good he plays in two positions?

 

[Pat Rice Spurs fan]

Andros' so good he plays in two positions?

Oops. Amended, Ta.

 

[Marty]

Oops. Amended, Ta.

No worries. Love the setup, how can nine attacking players fail to break down the bus-parkers?

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Now Timmy's I'm charge

Lloris
Dawson
Lennon Eriksen Townsend
Lamela Adebayor Soldado Kane Chadli
Defoe
​

You know we would end up winning 1-0 from a Dawson header.

 

[DJS]

Lloris

Walker

Sandro

Lennon Dembele Paulinho Eriksen Towsend

Lamela Soldado Adebayor


Walker is quite pacey so should be able to recover.

And no-one would get past Sandro anyway.

 

[SpurSince57]

We don't play 4-5-1.

We have much better chance of scoring with our current formation than we would with a 442. With that formation we wouldn't even control the play! Just sticking two players closer to the opposition goal makes no difference if you can't even get the ball to make chances for them.

This was posted on 13 November, by which time we'd played 11 games and scored, er, nine goals, three of them from the spot. Since switching to two strikers we've scored nine in four.

Funny, that.

 

[dontcallme]

Do we now think formation is important?

Seemed like a lot of people thought 4-4-2 was no longer an option.

I don't think it's solely about the formation. If anything you were more right about the importance of Adebayor than the formation.

I don't think we'd have done so well in the last 3 games with a 442 but defoe and Soldado up front.

 

[SpurSince57]

Dembele isn't good at tackling. Tbh I don't know what he's good at lol.

And we have verts, rose and Norton there...

Actually, he's made 39, with a success rate of over 90%, but don't let facts get in the way of your posting half-baked garbage.

 

[Kingstheman]

Now Timmy's I'm charge

Lloris
Dawson
Lennon Eriksen Townsend
Lamela Adebayor Soldado Kane Chadli
Defoe
​

Isn't that a variant of the 1936 Japanese kamikaze formation?

 

[NEVILLEB]

I don't think it's solely about the formation. If anything you were more right about the importance of Adebayor than the formation.

I don't think we'd have done so well in the last 3 games with a 442 but defoe and Soldado up front.

That's only because Defoe and Soldado are both poachers.

If you've played upfront on your own in a football match you'd know that it's A LOT HARDER. You have to do much more running, you usually have two defenders on you, no one is making runs off you or for you, etc, etc.

Very few players really excel in that role. Drogba was probably the ultimate lone striker because he had it all. Power, height, pace, skill, etc. You have to be able to do the job of two strikers.

Playing Soldado repeatedly on his own just showed AVB is f*&&ing clueless.

 

[dontcallme]

That's only because Defoe and Soldado are both poachers.

If you've played upfront on your own in a football match you'd know that it's A LOT harder. You have to do much more running, you usually have two defenders on you, no one is making runs off you or for you, etc, etc.

Very few players really excel in that role. Drogba was probably the ultimate lone striker because he had it all. Power, height, pace, skill, etc.

Playing Soldado repeatedly on his own just showed AVB is f*&&ing clueless.

I agree with you there on the playing personnel. But remember Arsenal successfully played RVP as a lone striker as did Owen at times for Liverpool, Torres did too for that matter.

I don't think it's all down to the formation. But yes you are right with our current personnel given their form I'd like us to stick with Ade and Soldado up front.

But maybe in the future Lamela could take one of these roles. We need a system that gets the most out of what we have, down the road that might sometimes involve one out-and-out striker.

 

[NEVILLEB]

I agree with you there on the playing personnel. But remember Arsenal successfully played RVP as a lone striker as did Owen at times for Liverpool, Torres did too for that matter.

I don't think it's all down to the formation. But yes you are right with our current personnel given their form I'd like us to stick with Ade and Soldado up front.

But maybe in the future Lamela could take one of these roles. We need a system that gets the most out of what we have, down the road that might sometimes involve one out-and-out striker.

The main thing to agree on is that AVB is clueless.

Tactics can be important but confidence is the most valuable asset in sports.

AVB never inspired the players to reach their potential. Not at Chelsea or Tottenham.

 

[SpurSince57]

I agree with you there on the playing personnel. But remember Arsenal successfully played RVP as a lone striker as did Owen at times for Liverpool, Torres did too for that matter.

I don't think it's all down to the formation. But yes you are right with our current personnel given their form I'd like us to stick with Ade and Soldado up front.

But maybe in the future Lamela could take one of these roles. We need a system that gets the most out of what we have, down the road that might sometimes involve one out-and-out striker.

But what they had, and have, and we do not, is reliable goals from midfield. When you've got Lampard, say, you can afford that single striker. VdV and Bale excluded, the most effective midfield goalscorer we've had in years was Jenas. Sig's been a disappointment in that respect, but he's about the best current option we have until Paulinho can find his shooting boots, although Lamela and Eriksen may come good.

 

[dontcallme]

The main thing to agree on is that AVB is clueless.

Tactics can be important but confidence is the most valuable asset in sports.

AVB never inspired the players to reach their potential. Not at Chelsea or Tottenham.

I wouldn't go as far as clueless. Even this season we had a decent points total. I'd agree that he wasn't doing as well as he should have with the squad he had at his disposal.

In life I think you often have 2 choices. Deal with the reality of a situation or bitch about how things should be. The 1st group is often the most successful as they focus on the task at hand and make the best of it. The 2nd group sound intelligent and make good observations but aren't really doing anything.

AVB was from the latter group. He had good ideas on how things should be but in reality to be successful he needed to deal with difficult characters rather than get rid of them and needed to play a formation and system that suited what we have.

He inspired Bale to reach his potential better than Redknapp did so won't write AVB off completely. He just had more failures than successes.

 

[dontcallme]

But what they had, and have, and we do not, is reliable goals from midfield. When you've got Lampard, say, you can afford that single striker. VdV and Bale excluded, the most effective midfield goalscorer we've had in years was Jenas. Sig's been a disappointment in that respect, but he's about the best current option we have until Paulinho can find his shooting boots, although Lamela and Eriksen may come good.

Absolutely. But as I later said if Lamela finds his feet and gets to the top of his game it's possible that we could revert back to a lone striker.

We have struggled with goals from midfield and Soldado and Ade are already showing an excellent understanding with each other. Soldado is starting to show a skill-set I never thought for a second he had.

With the right players and goals from midfield you can play one up front even if he doesn't have Drogba's skill-set. Right now Ade, Soldado and Eriksen are looking very good together.

 

[Pat Rice Spurs fan]

You know we would end up winning 1-0 from a Dawson header.

Or lose 1-0 from a Dawson header!