jonathanhotspur
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“He got a big knock on his ankle against Borussia Dortmund,” Pochettino explained.
http://www.westlondonsport.com/tottenham/tottenham-boss-pochettino-explains-left-davies-wls-football
Tottenham vs Swansea: Match Thread
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St José Dominguez
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Think the win over Everton - who were utterly diabolical - has tricked Poch into thinking this triangle midfield works. Personally I think we lose drive from the centre of the pitch, and because of this it forces Eriksen to drop deeper to get the ball. The opposition just let Dier have the ball and pack the spaces meaning all Dier can do is just pass side to side. Without pacey full backs stretching the opposition we're basically screwed and if an opposition is disciplined we're not going to create clear cut chances with a starting lineup like today.
If Dembele isn't fit then either play Sissoko centrally or preferably give Winks his chance. I was against waiting for Barkley and games like today make it look an error of judgment not bringing in someone who can start when Dembele is not fit.
The balance just doesn't look right to me centrally. Eriksen becomes less influential in final third. Kane ends up having to drop deeper to get involved. Dele, whose touch is never great, ends up recieving the ball with no time because there is just Dier to deal with in CM.
If Dembele isn't fit then either play Sissoko centrally or preferably give Winks his chance. I was against waiting for Barkley and games like today make it look an error of judgment not bringing in someone who can start when Dembele is not fit.
The balance just doesn't look right to me centrally. Eriksen becomes less influential in final third. Kane ends up having to drop deeper to get involved. Dele, whose touch is never great, ends up recieving the ball with no time because there is just Dier to deal with in CM.
Streetspur77
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I've seen quite a few saying ridiculous things such as "poch needs to look in the mirror" and "this result is all on poch" with numorous agrees and likes
I think what we're seeing is a rising of expectations, because of our amazing results in recent years, that we must win every game and if we don't then something has gone badly wrong, not just that it was a contest against another team who wanted to do well aswell and most things went against us
EDIT- look in ratings thread for some examples of the hyperbole
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heelspurs
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Nah, wouldn't have worked. Today he would have been deployed at RCB because Toby needed a restYou lost me when I saw Rabiot in your signature. My God the damage we could do with that Lad in our squad.
keithtighe93
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Dier isn't good enough as a midfielder to play in midfield
it was the selection of the particular WBs
Davies knock, Rose out since Jan
Sonny moved right when Trips moved left
King of Otters
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Decent centre back, mediocre midfielder. Should have been off for Winks at half time, the fact that he played the 90 minutes is baffling.
Poch is weird sometimes.
markiespurs
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Think Poch needs to take the majority of the blame for today's draw. 3 central defenders and a defensive midfielder at home to Swansea was a baffling decision and the less said about Son at LWB the better.
The players don't get off Scot free though, as it still has'nt sunk in that we need to move the ball around faster from the first whistle, not from just the 2nd half. When we did start to move the ball quicker in the 2nd half, we looked a lot more dangerous.
The players don't get off Scot free though, as it still has'nt sunk in that we need to move the ball around faster from the first whistle, not from just the 2nd half. When we did start to move the ball quicker in the 2nd half, we looked a lot more dangerous.
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You also don't go about setting up your tactics with poor refereeing decisions in mind. Who's to say we wouldn't have scored had Aurier not been tripped?
Penalties tend to result from attacking pressure. The fact that we had five penalty appeals (regardless of whether they were valid appeals) shows that we must have been spending a lot of time inside their penalty area.
Jamturk
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Mourinho, Pochettino disagree
markiespurs
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Dier is good as a defensive midfielder, especially as one who can drop back and form a back 3.
But today we needed someone who can move the ball quicker and has a bit more attacking nous, especially in the 2nd half, Winks or Dembele would have done a much better job in the 2nd half than Dier.
TottenhamMattSpur
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Just got in, long old day tracking there and back. 3 down, 16 to go.
Be nice if we win one before we give the keys back.
Thoughts?
It's no good playing in the opposition half when they're happy with every single player sitting in. We might need to be more clever and tactically concede possession more often to draw them out. 75% posession today vs around 30% against Dortmund and we had infinitely more clear cut chances against them.
Barcelona did it for years, giving the ball away in the final third, waiting for the opposition to counter then win the ball back and counter the counter.
Think I saw we'd made around 675 passes today. I think 600 them were sideways.
Be nice if we win one before we give the keys back.
Thoughts?
It's no good playing in the opposition half when they're happy with every single player sitting in. We might need to be more clever and tactically concede possession more often to draw them out. 75% posession today vs around 30% against Dortmund and we had infinitely more clear cut chances against them.
Barcelona did it for years, giving the ball away in the final third, waiting for the opposition to counter then win the ball back and counter the counter.
Think I saw we'd made around 675 passes today. I think 600 them were sideways.
heelspurs
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If you admit this then what is the problem with people's criticism of Poch? Forgive me if I am wrong but he does in fact make the selections right?
eViL
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Same nonsense as Davies - if they're injured then they shouldn't be on the bench.
I never thought we'd see Poch have his favourites, but Dier and Alli look undroppable at the moment despite their poor showings.
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But, I thought Poch was credited for turning him into a good tough tackling midfielder, good enough to play there for England.
SpursSince1980
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It's very clear that Poch needs to figure out a better game plan against these teams. It's never easy to play teams like this, but that's the difference between a top four finish and not. He didn't helps things with a rather bizarre team selection. And to top it off, Eriksen and Alli were both poor. The other thing that concerned me was the overall quality of our crossing and dead ball situations. The quality was woeful today. Perhaps more time should be spent working on these basics, as clearly the players look awful in those situations at the moment.
markiespurs
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Alli I can kind of understand because even when he is out of form, he can still pop up with a goal to win you the match.
heelspurs
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England are shit and though he may be a tough tackling, shepherding MF that is not the same, nor what is needed, as a pivot in a 4141. Different things.
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