Match Threads Arsenal Vs Spurs

[Barrd10]

He’s never been anything other than hideous

Come on not that good.

 

[Barrd10]

Yeah fuck it - let’s drop the worlds best striker and “experiment” because Russ1201 wonders if it might work.
What have any of us got to lose really…

He’s not playing like the worlds best striker. He has been very average for the whole season really. He’s scored some goals so people overlook that he’s been poor.

 

[DenverSpur]

Did you actually watch the game? The one I watched Arsenal were head and shoulders better than us, quicker, better passing and looked dangerous everytime they went forward. It's difficult to take but at the moment they are a better team than us.

Don’t be a condescending dick.
Of course I watched the game. Tell me exactly where they “looked dangerous every time they went forward” up until Lloris’s mistake? Martenelli hit the post early on, Xhaka, Odegaard and Partey had long distance shots, the latter a goal, and Jesus had a jinking run into the box which we snuffed out at the 6 yard box. Apart from that what danger did they pose? With a bit more composure we could have gone in at half time ahead.That was one of the most stress free first halves I’ve watched playing at their place.
Their fans were much more worried than we were at half time.
You can’t compare how they play with how we play as it’s like comparing apples and oranges.

 

[DarwinSpur]

He’s not playing like the worlds best striker. He has been very average for the whole season really. He’s scored some goals so people overlook that he’s been poor.

 

[JayB]

"We" were all were we

Look back at the comments at half time in this thread and tell me I’ve misrepresented the consensus. The first half was a totally normal Conte performance and then it all went to shit through individual errors.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

You can’t compare how they play with how we play as it’s like comparing apples and oranges.

Therein lies the fundamental problem - a lot of people here want us to play like Arsenal - so they look at any other style as poor in relation.

 

[rossdapep]

Don’t be a condescending dick.
Of course I watched the game. Tell me exactly where they “looked dangerous every time they went forward” up until Lloris’s mistake? Martenelli hit the post early on, Xhaka, Odegaard and Partey had long distance shots, the latter a goal, and Jesus had a jinking run into the box which we snuffed out at the 6 yard box. Apart from that what danger did they pose ?wWith a bit more composure we could have gone in at half time ahead.That was one of the most stress free first halves I’ve watched playing at their place.
Their fans were much more worried than we were at half time.
You can’t compare how they play with how we play as it’s like comparing apples and oranges.

Exactly.

First 15 I was on edge and a bit worried about them.

But then the game went into this weird phase where I was expecting more from them but they didnt actually do anything. Thats when I started to feel more comfortable.

Dier then nicked the ball ahead of Richarlison for that chance and I felt that we were growing into it.

Then Partey scored that worldie and the frustration came back but we responded well and started to get into good areas after getting by their press.

Bentancur was superb and starting to dominate and make us tick. A few attacks broke down because the quality was poor (Emerson fucked up a few) but it really felt like we were starting to get on top.

The fact that their crowd was quietening tells you that they were beginning to get nervous.

I think the game plan was clear. Arsenal always start aggressive, so stay compact, limit them and then start to find ways out and attack with numbers when we get a bit more control and they are reserving energy.

For a NLD that we do appalling in, the first half went to plan.

From then on it felt like we would need to stay compact first 10 or so and then look to catch them out and grow again. Just keep the crowd nervous and we can capitalise on it.

Romero made that gut busting run which showed we werent just sitting but timing it.

Lloris mistake made it harder because now the crowd were buoyed again.

Emerson destroyed the game with his idiocy.

Arsenal were certainly not head and shoulders above us. But they got the lift they needed and took advantage of it well.

 

[rossdapep]

Exactly.

First 15 I was on edge and a bit worried about them.

But then the game went into this weird phase where I was expecting more from them but they didnt actually do anything. Thats when I started to feel more comfortable.

Dier then nicked the ball ahead of Richarlison for that chance and I felt that we were growing into it.

Then Partey scored that worldie and the frustration came back but we responded well and started to get into good areas after getting by their press.

Bentancur was superb and starting to dominate and make us tick. A few attacks broke down because the quality was poor (Emerson fucked up a few) but it really felt like we were starting to get on top.

The fact that their crowd was quietening tells you that they were beginning to get nervous.

I think the game plan was clear. Arsenal always start aggressive, so stay compact, limit them and then start to find ways out and attack with numbers when we get a bit more control and they are reserving energy.

For a NLD that we do appalling in, the first half went to plan.

From then on it felt like we would need to stay compact first 10 or so and then look to catch them out and grow again. Just keep the crowd nervous and we can capitalise on it.

Romero made that gut busting run which showed we werent just sitting but timing it.

Lloris mistake made it harder because now the crowd were buoyed again.

Emerson destroyed the game with his idiocy.

Arsenal were certainly not head and shoulders above us. But they got the lift they needed and took advantage of it well.

..and when I say this you have to remember our performance there last season and the one before.

Under Jose we were shocking but for a miracle Lamela goal went 1 up. From then on we couldn't make two passes, were getting overrun on the left side and chasing shadows. It was horrible to watch.

Under Nuno, we were somehow even worse! We had absolutely nothing to give and it looked like we were gonna get hit by 5 or 6. Somehow we didn't.

Today was nothing like those performances and actually fits the trend of some of our other performances this season in where 10 mins have been great then 10 we botch good attacks. We're just a little imconsistent at the moment in our play which I think will improve over time.

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

Uncle’s a big Arsenal fan, said to me a couple of weeks ago Tottenham will be the big test for us to see if anything will be different this season. I said on the contrary Arsenal winning says little about them as the home team usually wins, Arsenal winning or not says much more about Tottenham if anything has changed….

Unfortunately it looks very much like same old which depresses me more than the actual result. Tbh I expected us to lose today, Arsenal are playing well, we have been struggling all season for any sort of form. I know we’re near the top but we’re not playing well. Yes it’s good to get results when you’re not playing well but as some point you have to show some sort of consistent form if you’re going to do anything trophy wise, especially in these 6 pointers…

 

[olliec]

We completely capitulated in the second half after the lloris mistake and royal red card. Up until that point we actually looked like taking a point from that game. They weren’t better than us. Individual mistakes cost us that game.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Feel like we're starting to see the limits of Conte's management. It hasn't clicked all season but we've been fortunate to consistently pick up points. Helps having several world beaters in the team. Is this why Conte always demands huge spends wherever he goes? Because the football tends to go a bit flat and he's tactically inflexible?

When it's good it's good but when it's not it's really nothing special. The players don't seem entirely invested this season for some reason and not making the obvious rotational choices or using the squad to its potential seems weirdly stubborn.

I think it's more like we finally see the importance of Kulu and how much Kulu has bailed him and the team out. A few more games without Kulu and we still performed the same way then that will be quite a solid argument of saying we are seeing the limit of his management if he's still adamant of not trying 3-5-2 especially.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Only positive I can take is that we don't have to go to Chelsea, Arsenal or West Ham in the next 30 league games.

Seriously fuck them all for considering us their biggest rival. Straight away that's a disadvantage for us. Can't think of another team in the league who has 3 teams who always up their game against them.

Woke up still reeling with the performances against these 3 shit fucks. Not even asking for a win in all honesty at their grounds, but at least show us the passion and fire. The social media drumming such games all week are so fucking hollow if they do not even have the desire to press for majority of the game. That got me really pissed.

And agree totally they raised their games only against us but playing so normally against one another.

 

[chrissivad]

Sorry that’s bollocks.
We got the ball to them on many occasions they just don’t do enough with it.
I’m in agreement With mpicard8027 that our problem this season is that our attack is not functioning efficiently - too many bad decisions in possession and sloppy passing.
The lead up to our goal is a good example. Son had an easy pass to play in Richarlison in on goal and messed it up pushing him too wide. We got lucky that we ended up with a penalty.
Later Son played in Perisic on the left who despite having plenty of time and space to pick a pass or shot slashed it wildly over the bar.
In every game there are examples like this.

But how do we get the ball to them, and then who is in support of them?

Yes, at times we will see someone make a run from deep, or get the ball down and get the ball I to them, but imo not often enough, or quick enough.

The front 3 were poor on the ball today, but the balls up to them and the support were also poor.

 

[teok]

Well, I did not enjoy that. ?

 

[olliec]

The final third was extremely disappointing. So many times we broke their line, but the final pass was either underhit or overhit. It’s not like us to make so many silly little mistakes so I’m guessing the occasion and atmosphere got to us like it usually does. Arsenal were sweating at half time. Anyone who says they were much better than us clearly doesn’t understand the way we play. We limited them to a worldy and catastrophic error from Lloris. The players need to pick themselves up and we go again. all they have is bragging rights for now, but the season is still extremely early with a long long way to go.

 

[cider spurs]

Shit result, but I thought we carved out some good chances first half through our counter attacks.

Final ball just seemed slightly wayward, often putting man through too wide. A bit better passing, and more clinical in our shooting, we could've had a few more goals.

Things to work on, but I thought we were very threatening first half, economical with the ball.

 

[JimmyG2]

Never in it
even before we self combusted.
They were slicker, quicker
and played some good fluent football.
We made a couple of openings
but are kidding ourselves
if we thought were any sort of match.

 

[Serpico]

This is not the spirit


This is the spirit.


This is not the spirit.

Its not the spirit , your right but its my Spurs reality.

 

[Japhet]

Exactly.

First 15 I was on edge and a bit worried about them.

But then the game went into this weird phase where I was expecting more from them but they didnt actually do anything. Thats when I started to feel more comfortable.

Dier then nicked the ball ahead of Richarlison for that chance and I felt that we were growing into it.

Then Partey scored that worldie and the frustration came back but we responded well and started to get into good areas after getting by their press.

Bentancur was superb and starting to dominate and make us tick. A few attacks broke down because the quality was poor (Emerson fucked up a few) but it really felt like we were starting to get on top.

The fact that their crowd was quietening tells you that they were beginning to get nervous.

I think the game plan was clear. Arsenal always start aggressive, so stay compact, limit them and then start to find ways out and attack with numbers when we get a bit more control and they are reserving energy.

For a NLD that we do appalling in, the first half went to plan.

From then on it felt like we would need to stay compact first 10 or so and then look to catch them out and grow again. Just keep the crowd nervous and we can capitalise on it.

Romero made that gut busting run which showed we werent just sitting but timing it.

Lloris mistake made it harder because now the crowd were buoyed again.

Emerson destroyed the game with his idiocy.

Arsenal were certainly not head and shoulders above us. But they got the lift they needed and took advantage of it well.

Bentancur was my MOM (for us), but I just can't help wondering how much better he might have been if he wasn't having to cover so much ground in midfield with so many different jobs to do. Arsenal always had a spare man (usually Odegaard) and it enabled them to move us around at will and create spaces around our penalty area which they exploited for all 3 goals.

 

[Russ1201]

Yeah fuck it - let’s drop the worlds best striker and “experiment” because Russ1201 wonders if it might work.
What have any of us got to lose really…

So do you think Ksne dese ves to be undropable ? In my opinion you have to earn your place in the team. You can be Ronaldo, Messi anyone if your not playing to your full capacity there is no harm being dropped to remind you.