Match Threads Arsenal Vs Spurs

[olliec]

Never in it
even before we self combusted.
They were slicker, quicker
and played some good fluent football.
We made a couple of openings
but are kidding ourselves
if we thought were any sort of match.

You’re telling me at half time you wasn’t excited by what you saw? They were lucky to go in 1-1. We had by the best chances and thought they are there for the taking. We just needed to be slicker in the final third, but sadly we capitulated.

 

[Dov67]

Last year we lost because the formation was ridiculous and played into their hands, but more embarrassingly we surrendered like scared little children from the very first minute. I switched off at 55 mins or so and i have never in my life done that for any game let alone an NLD.

This year, i would have preferred a 3 man midfield and said so all week, but i cannot say we lost because of the formation. At HT the consensus on here was we were doing fine, and we were more likely to win it than they were.

So yes, they played well and deserved the 3 points (which hurts to say), but we didn’t lose the game because Conte f**d it up with his selection or subs. We didn’t lose either because we were weak mentally as we have so shamefully been many times in previous seasons.

We lost because Hugo, as much as i love him, may as well have thrown the ball into the net 2 mins after the start and any chance of making a comeback went with that red card, which was incredibly soft.

I cannot express in words how much i utterly loathe, detest, despise, hate that f****g club. I hate every letter that makes up their name, and their kit makes me want to vomit. When we lose to them I go into a dark place for days. But for some reason I dont feel that way this time. They were 4 points ahead with 3 games to go in May and we still took the champions league place and pushed them into Thursday nights.

There are 30 games to go. We can do this.

PS - Royal’s suspension gives up an opportunity to go another direction which is great, though knowing our luck his red card will get overturned.

 

[InBlackAndWhite]

You’re telling me at half time you wasn’t excited by what you saw? They were lucky to go in 1-1. We had by the best chances and thought they are there for the taking. We just needed to be slicker in the final third, but sadly we capitulated.

Watch it again mate. You are insane. The only real 'chance' would have been offside. The game was very one sided other than about 10 of the 90.

 

[Scot-Spur]

Watch it again mate. You are insane. The only real 'chance' would have been offside. The game was very one sided other than about 10 of the 90.

We were almost 1 v 1 with Ramsdale like three times but we over or under hit the pass appallingly.
What people need to realise is we don’t play football the same as them. They look good without creating a lot sometimes whereas we usually create chance but are quite unflattering to watch.

 

[slartibartfast]

Here's my take on it.
Both teams started exactly as expected. I thought we'd concede in the first 20mins. We did.
I have issue with saying it was a worldy goal. If you sit in your own goal area conceding possesion and not marking anyone lining up on the edge of the box then the chances of someone, top professionals, taking a whack from 20yards and scoring is not only more likely but likely.
The same with the Lloris mistake. Yes it was a cataclysmic cock up but if you allow the opposition to continously dominate then the likelihood of a mistake increases.
We got what we deserved and Arsenal, unfortunately, got what they deserved.
As you can tell I am not a fan of this style of play and I can't see us doing anything playing this style.
Its easy to see why Conte is more successful in leagues than cups playing this way. We'll win more games than lose percentage wise but in a cup competition we'll be out. Top 4 hopefully but a trophy? No chance.
Does annoy me when every fan on here and social media knows we're going to be over run in midfield and yet we just play the same way and, suprise, get reamed.
Be interesting to see what happens now Emerson isnt an opposition. Could be a blessing.

 

[EastLondonYid]

The positive is, this is surely the last of Emerson as a guaranteed starter.

Funny how we play 5 at the back to accommodate our poor centre halves who can't play in a 4, yet continue with a flawed system where our wingbacks are not wingbacks and expose our midfield two who aren't noway good enough to cope with being outnumbered every week.

 

[olliec]

Watch it again mate. You are insane. The only real 'chance' would have been offside. The game was very one sided other than about 10 of the 90.

I don’t need to watch again. I know what I saw. We had by far the better chances. We just didn’t capitalise, granted they had more of the ball, but possession doesn’t mean you’re controlling the game.

 

[Krafty]

Only seen the MotD highlights and the live text, but the theme is the same from previous matches. We give up the initiative so so easily.

Our low press is in danger of getting so low it’s behind the goal. No pressure on the ball in our own third, plenty of men back but no intensity, occupying space but not engaging.

You can’t expect Richarlison and Son to be active defenders in our third. You can’t expect the two centre mids, outnumbered, to both cover the centre backs, help wide and support forward.

The counter to all that is when we have tried to take the initiative we then get exposed at the back.

For me, the issue lies in the centre of the park. The number and direction given to those centre mids just doesn’t work when we should be going a bit more toe to toe with the opposition

 

[thekneaf]

For the Partey goal, that was an error from the midfield 2. They were 5 yards too deep, so even playing with these tactics you can avoid that, but the two of them allowed themselves to be sucked into the defensive line.

With Kulu on the right we'd have made the most of our breaks. And Partey playing was huge for them. In big games they're really reliant on his intelligence on and off the ball.

 

[HedgieSpur]

I was at the game yesterday, here is my view:

1. I thought that they outplayed us pretty much the whole match. We had a 15 min spell in the first half were we looked quite sharp but let ourselves down with our passing and decision making

2. I loathe Arteta and think he’s a shit manager but I can’t deny that he has put together a technically sound team. I don’t think they will challenge for the title but they are much stronger than they have been in the last few seasons

3. While I find our way of playing incredibly dull and turgid, I cannot deny that it can be very very effective if executed correctly. At this point in my life, I’ll take efficacy over style any day of the week and hence I do think we can be successful if we get the right players in.

4. I think we really need more technical ability in midfield and at RWB. I’d be going all out to bring in Maddison and we need to play Spence.

5. Our collective mentality as a club is still very weak. We still do not exude the confidence of a club that is in the top tier. I’ll include our supporters in that too….. way too many of us accept mediocrity (“we always lose at the Emirates”, “oh well, we go again”, “No way were we ever likely to win away” etc etc). As a club we need to be more demanding of our players and drop out of form players (including Kane) as required. PERFORMANCE should be our main criterion for selection.

6. I fucking hate the Death Star… horrible stadium

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

 

[punkisback]

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No doubt you will have people on here telling you to trust the process or that our lack of attacking threat and possession shows we have a plan and is in fact a way of controlling the game

 

[slartibartfast]

I don’t need to watch again. I know what I saw. We had by far the better chances. We just didn’t capitalise, granted they had more of the ball, but possession doesn’t mean you’re controlling the game.

Sorry but I disagree, possesion does mean you are controlling the game.
It doesn't mean you're going to win but you are controlling the game.
If you do not have the ball you can't do anything other than wait for a mistake that may not come, or run around trying to win it back.
Without the ball you cannot win the game so the more of the ball you have the better your chances of winning and certainly less chance of losing.
Obviously possesion for possesions sake with no goal threat wont win you the game but if you limit the number of chances the opposition have because they simply haven't got the ball then I'd say statistically you're less likely to lose, and if the majority of the game is played around your goal area you're far more likely to concede no matter how good your defence.
Taking a pummelling to try and hit on the counter attack is not a great game plan imo but hey, just my onions.

 

[chrissivad]

With or without the ball, we didn't control anything yesterday...

 

[spurmin]

No doubt you will have people on here telling you to trust the process or that our lack of attacking threat and possession shows we have a plan and is in fact a way of controlling the game

30 premier league games still to play. COYS

 

[SPURSLIFE]

Don’t be a condescending dick.
Of course I watched the game. Tell me exactly where they “looked dangerous every time they went forward” up until Lloris’s mistake? Martenelli hit the post early on, Xhaka, Odegaard and Partey had long distance shots, the latter a goal, and Jesus had a jinking run into the box which we snuffed out at the 6 yard box. Apart from that what danger did they pose? With a bit more composure we could have gone in at half time ahead.That was one of the most stress free first halves I’ve watched playing at their place.
Their fans were much more worried than we were at half time.
You can’t compare how they play with how we play as it’s like comparing apples and oranges.

My name's not Dick by the way. You see it one way I see it another. I saw a side that always looked like they were going to win and were better in most play across the pitch. Just accept it, like it or not.

 

[rossdapep]

Watch it again mate. You are insane. The only real 'chance' would have been offside. The game was very one sided other than about 10 of the 90.

They had more possession but we were clearly happy with that.

I'd argue that in that first half we worked the ball into dangerous areas quicker than them but our front line isnt as sharp as it was at end of last season so moves kept breaking down.

Honestly, there is nothing wrong with our tactics. Its the effectiveness of our frontline.

Kane, for example, where have his defence splitting passes gone? Why is he no longer taking shots from all angles? Yesterday his passing was poor and he was overhitting passes that last season he does with ease.

He's scored 7 (which is fantastic) but they are not the wide range of goals we are accustomed to. 1 penalty, 4 headers, 1 tap in and 1 shot from about 16 yards. He doesn't seem to be doing what he was doing.

If he's adapting to be play more as a CF again, then Kulusevski has to play 100%.

Son and Richarlison can't play together unless Richarlison is the CF.

At the moment, it seems to be a case of chemistry that'll improve the more they play with each other.

And I think that's what let us down yesterday.

 

[degoose]

Funny how we play 5 at the back to accommodate our poor centre halves who can't play in a 4, yet continue with a flawed system where our wingbacks are not wingbacks and expose our midfield two who aren't noway good enough to cope with being outnumbered every week.

I mean perisic is a wingback. He played as a wingback for multiple seasons. Royal is not but he's only 22 and never played there before last season.

 

[InBlackAndWhite]

I don’t need to watch again. I know what I saw. We had by far the better chances. We just didn’t capitalise, granted they had more of the ball, but possession doesn’t mean you’re controlling the game.

Take off the lilywhite tinted glasses and scroll down to the graph DanielJohnCosta posted.

Watch the highlights then if you dare, you won't see many that make you happy. Gifted penalty aside, I cannot think of a single good chance created. Ridiculous take, I am sorry.

 

[Phil_2.0]

The system isn't the issue, the Conte system always works. Unless hes suddenly gone out of date.

The players aren't good enough to defend in their own box for this long. You need clean accurate precise dominant defenders and a GK who catches everything.