Do we need Dier now?

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  1. muppetman

    muppetman Well-Known Member

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    Excellent read and I thought that "It was also really interesting to see how he handled his confrontations with Diego Costa. He stands right up for the team and himself but he’s not looking for a row and there was emotional control. You could even sense some respect coming back his way from Costa and you don’t see that often" was absolutely spot on.
     
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    Just one of those injuries that we hear NOTHING about
     
  3. spursfan77

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    It shows that doing the book has been a good idea in parts by Poch. It's allowed situations like Dier's to be explained fully. No wonder there was itk in the summer that Dier was more likely to sign a new contract than leave. No doubt Man Utd were after him (tapped him up) but he doesn't sound like he's inkling for a move at all now.
     
  4. spursfan77

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    I thought he played superbly last night. He played the holding midfielder perfectly but I doubt it will be highlighted by the media/other team fans

    E.g. Filling in at left centre back the times in the second half when Maguire dribbled forward.
     
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  5. DJS

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  6. coys200

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    I was Always wanyama over Dier as a DM.But was interesting last night that Dier almost played for England how spurs have been playing as a central pivot.If you play like that the player has to be able to ping the ball around as winks has done and dier did that very welllast night.Honestly Think Dier has come on leaps and bounds since last season. For me wanyama isn’t that type of player he’s much more a destroyer and give it short to a playmaker.But poch now seems to be favouring a ball playing DM.Will be interesting when wanyama is back how it works out.
     
  7. coys200

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    Captain again. Southgate waxing lyrical about him.
     
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  8. coys200

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    Think he’s at fault for 2nd goal. Should have been round on cover and got to lacazette. In fact Sanchez has to come from one position wider to get round on cover and nearly gets to him.No idea why Sanchez doesn’t play in middle and dier on right. 2nd goal never happens if Sanchez is in the middle not on the right. However improved Dier has been he still switches off at crucial moments.
     
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  9. Roynie

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    I'm not sure.

    I'm not sure whether you're a troll or a plank.

    Ed is a leader. There's a reason why he is interviewed on TV. He is a good player, a leader, versatile, can be aggressive when necessary and is not unintelligent. He is a player that can switch from CB, to DM, to RB as necessary in any game. He gives us the flexibility to change formation in any game to suit the circumstances.

    It's not difficult!

    EDIT: There are some players who bring qualities to the team even when they are not on form. In my opinion Eric Dier is one of them.
     
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  10. Francis Gibbs

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    Cleared up the issue as to whether he is a CH yesterday.... and not in a good way
     
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  11. yusrisafri

    yusrisafri Well-Known Member

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    After Real Madrid, yes.

    After Arsenal, no.

    After Dortmund if he plays well, yes.

    Never ending fickleness we are.
     
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  12. coys200

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    Maybe that’s Dier inconsistency as opposed to our fickleness.
     
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  13. Ionman34

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    He’s 23 and still learning his trade, a good 4-5 years from his prime. He plays in a position where the slightest error will be punished severely.

    I’m going with fickleness.
     
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  14. Roynie

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    This. A CB doesn't usually hit his prime until mid to late 20's. Let's face it only a year or two ago people on here were questioning our purchase of Verts. Now he's the best CB. There is no end to the fickleness of footie fans!
     
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  15. SpursDave88

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    I don't think people have ever questioned Verts, I certainly haven't.
     
  16. Shadydan

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    You weren't around in the Sherwood season were you.
     
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  17. Roynie

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    No, I appreciate that, I was trying, and failing, to point out that a couple of years ago people were writing him off, but he now is, arguably, the best CB we have. But he is now 30 years old, whereas Dier is just 23. He is nowhere near his peak as a CB yet he is an England International and was Captain last week, albeit as a DM. That shows he has considerable leadership skills, something we need with such a young team.

    I accept that, like all players, he has good games and poor games. But he is still very young and has skills and talents that we desperately need. He is relatively comfortable in 3 different defensive positions and that gives us the ability to change our formation in the middle of a game to suit the situation or tactics of our opponents. That is not something we should give away without a serious struggle and at a great cost to the buyer.
     

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