Fabian Delph

[ardiles&villa]

Hes quite good but would rather get rid of a couple of our midfielders and give carroll a chance.

 

[EQP]

Considering he can also play LB/CDM/CM/AM i would def take him on board. We've seen with other teams the importance of having a player who can fill in when we have injuries issues/suspensions ( without losing to much quality). We could be looking at at midfield group of Nabil, Mason, Carroll, Stambouli, Delph, Veljokovic ( If we sell Paulinho, Moose, Capoue ) . I know he might not be a catchy name but i feel we need more drive in the center of the park and Fabian could help with that.

 

[DaSpurs]

Then we don't do it at all, IMO. There is no sense in buying another midfielder who can sort of do a different job because he's cheaper. We've got too many midfielders that can only do half a job at the moment as it is.

Also, I don't think there has been any chance of us signing Schneiderlin since Stambouli was bought as thew cheaper, Schneiderlin-light, McSchneiderlin, Fisher Price Schneiderlin, Findus Crispy Schneiderlin.

You're right, there is no sense in that if such is the logic. But I don't think it would be the case, as I believe personally that Delph would work very well in Poch's system, and I'm sure he would feel the same were he to pursue Delph.

 

[DaSpurs]

Hes quite good but would rather get rid of a couple of our midfielders and give carroll a chance.

Carroll has impressed this season, but he's still going to have to improve tremendously in his defensive department if he's to survive in Poch's system. I don't say this because he's lightweight, but because he is very poor at following his runners into the box/letting them move behind him without paying attention and is not great at getting stuck in. Mason for instance is probably even skinnier than Carroll, but as we've seen he's plenty willing to get stuck in for a tackle.

 

[allatsea]

Because it's a squad game. What happens if one or both get injured, we need more than 2 cm who can play the way MP is trying to get us to play

We need top quality to support and teach Mason and Bentelab and Delph is not. Let's shift out the deadwood and spend the money on real quality and not on someone who is no better than our existing best midfielders.

 

[thfc1989]

Would only take him if we shift two of Dembele, Capoue and Paulinho.

 

[dondo]

We need top quality to support and teach Mason and Bentelab and Delph is not. Let's shift out the deadwood and spend the money on real quality and not on someone who is no better than our existing best midfielders.

I'm all for that but who Realisticly are we likely to get who is prem proven quality and in our price range and willing to come on the wages we can afford?

Would also argue delph would be better than our existing midfielders

 

[Drexl]

I think he is a pretty average player, works hard but I really don't get the hype about him

Plus If he is refusing 50k a week, and shitting on the club that gave him his break and made him the player he is he sounds a bit of a ****, another one who thinks he is billy big bollocks because he got an England cap

 

[dirtydave]

We've all seen enough of Delph to know his stock is high at the moment and he's reasonably quick and agile. I struggle to see where he fits in the team though as his tackling is suspect and he's only scored 14 goals in 153 games since 2006! I'd summarise him as a 7/10 player much like numerous others already on the books.

 

[mpickard2087]

Delph isn't a bad player, he can use the ball, he gets around the pitch and isn't afraid to put his foot in. I'd imagine he could do ok for us. However I don't think he is that intelligent a player and doesn't read the game well at all, and I think he lacks composure when the pressure is on. Even on a free I think I'd pass, and much rather see us work with what we have got. Especially with the youngsters that we have already at the club.

 

[panoma]

I think part of the argument for Delph is he'll be a free transfer in the summer or at a reduced price in January.

This part is whats wrong with our player recruitment strategy. Again and again we pick up players based on those attributes instead of asking if this is the player we need to take us up a level.

We keep buying avarage players cause their contract are running short and they are decent players. All this does is block youth players road to the first team while also taxing our wages so we cant afford the real top players that could be available to us.

But i guess its all allright cause we might just make a profit on him in a few years....

 

[Sweech]

This part is whats wrong with our player recruitment strategy. Again and again we pick up players based on those attributes instead of asking if this is the player we need to take us up a level.

We keep buying avarage players cause their contract are running short and they are decent players. All this does is block youth players road to the first team while also taxing our wages so we cant afford the real top players that could be available to us.

But i guess its all allright cause we might just make a profit on him in a few years....

Exactly this. I'm just surprised that so many supporters are on the same train of thought as some of the club's management.

 

[DaSpurs]

This part is whats wrong with our player recruitment strategy. Again and again we pick up players based on those attributes instead of asking if this is the player we need to take us up a level.

We keep buying avarage players cause their contract are running short and they are decent players. All this does is block youth players road to the first team while also taxing our wages so we cant afford the real top players that could be available to us.

But i guess its all allright cause we might just make a profit on him in a few years....

Again, this is the case if you believe this to be the only rationale for picking up Delph.

It just so happens that this player would actually be rather compatible with our current manager's system. In the past, we've used a scattergun approach to pick up cheap players with decent potential and hoped they'd work. Massive, massive difference. Yes Delph would be cheap, but let's not use that as a basis to entirely overlook assessing compatibility with current squad needs and compatibility. This needs to be priority No 1 in our transfer policy moving forward, with unfortunately the very opposite bein the case the last few years.

 

[dontcallme]

I think he is a pretty average player, works hard but I really don't get the hype about him

Plus If he is refusing 50k a week, and shitting on the club that gave him his break and made him the player he is he sounds a bit of a ****, another one who thinks he is billy big bollocks because he got an England cap

Or maybe he's a player who worked hard and excelled despite playing for a very poor Villa side. He's now at a stage of his career where he wants to achieve something more than aiming for 10th and failing miserably.

 

[dontcallme]

This part is whats wrong with our player recruitment strategy. Again and again we pick up players based on those attributes instead of asking if this is the player we need to take us up a level.

We keep buying avarage players cause their contract are running short and they are decent players. All this does is block youth players road to the first team while also taxing our wages so we cant afford the real top players that could be available to us.

But i guess its all allright cause we might just make a profit on him in a few years....

Surely we bought Lloris, Vertonghen, Lamela, Eriksen and Soldado believing they can take us to a higher level.

I'm personally undecided on Delph. When I've seen him play over the last season and a half, not that often I admit, I've been very impressed and what's more think he'd suit our playing style quite well.

Certainly a better fit than Dembele who with his international career can still command a decent transfer fee.

So if we sold Dembele, Paulinho and Adebayor we'd be getting over £20m. With Delph's contract we could possibly get him for £3m. This would leave us with enough money to put in a big bid for the striker we really want.

His contract is a factor but I believe Delph could be a good fit for us.

 

[fatpiranha]

We've all seen enough of Delph to know his stock is high at the moment and he's reasonably quick and agile. I struggle to see where he fits in the team though as his tackling is suspect and he's only scored 14 goals in 153 games since 2006! I'd summarise him as a 7/10 player much like numerous others already on the books.

Delph is a DM. Scoring goals isn't his job. He's actually got a very decent long distance shot and has a better goals per game ratio than comparable players such as Schneiderlin or Carrick and he's palying for a much inferior team. Nonetheless, judging a DM on his goal threat is entirely missing the point. He's not a DM in the hard tackling Sandro mould but he can tackle and he gets a hell of a lot of interceptions. We don't have a player like him (Benteleb is the closest) and I would argue that he is the type of player we are desperately missing which is why Poch wanted Schneiderlin so badly.

As @panoma correctly points out we have bought a lot of average squad players with an eye on the bottom line and this isn't good either for the current squad or the future development of our youth players. Worse, we have bought a lot of average players who simply don't fit in to the system the manager wants to play. I disagree however that Delph is average. I think he is one of the best at his particular role in the premiership. If, as we all suspect, Poch wants to play the sort of high tempo pressing game he employed at Southampton then Delph is a damn good call. Arsenal and Everton have both been eyeing him up and if we do get him I hope the supporters don't hold the fact that he'll come at a bargain price against him.

 

[bat-chain]

Delph reminds me of Dembele, great at carrying the ball but never quite having the final ball.

Not bothered either way, think if you put someone like Dembele or Holtby in that Villa side they would stand out in the same way Delph does.

Main thing is we don't block the path of any of our youth coming through.

I'd swap him for Capoue mind you!

 

[dondo]

This part is whats wrong with our player recruitment strategy. Again and again we pick up players based on those attributes instead of asking if this is the player we need to take us up a level.

We keep buying avarage players cause their contract are running short and they are decent players. All this does is block youth players road to the first team while also taxing our wages so we cant afford the real top players that could be available to us.

But i guess its all allright cause we might just make a profit on him in a few years....

It's very hard for us to buy players that would " takes us to the top level" due to cost and top players wanting to come here.
Schneiderlin for example who although a good player IMO wouldn't take us to the next level and he was £25m. So unless we have around 100m to spend plus breaking our wage structure big time I can't see us signing top players. So I think we will continue to take punts on good talented and cheaper young player like delph

 

[DaSpurs]

It's very hard for us to buy players that would " takes us to the top level" due to cost and top players wanting to come here.
Schneiderlin for example who although a good player IMO wouldn't take us to the next level and he was £25m. So unless we have around 100m to spend plus breaking our wage structure big time I can't see us signing top players. So I think we will continue to take punts on good talented and cheaper young player like delph

Right, the key is to just be smarter with being realistic. We just haven't been particularly clever in the past while pursuing bargains. Not a doubt in my mind that this was part of the reasoning for bringing in Mitchell, to better analyze what to do with our limited funds, and consequently make better decisions. Delph, in my opinion, would be a strong step in the right direction toward this pursuit.

 

[dondo]

Right, the key is to just be smarter with being realistic. We just haven't been particularly clever in the past while pursuing bargains. Not a doubt in my mind that this was part of the reasoning for bringing in Mitchell, to better analyze what to do with our limited funds, and consequently make better decisions. Delph, in my opinion, would be a strong step in the right direction toward this pursuit.

Tottaly agree. Can see why people are suspicious about this transfer due to the contract situation of delph. We do tend to stock pile players that are in this situation wether we need them or not. But I think delph is a very good player and the type that we are missing