Jermaine Jenas

[Krafty]

I think the main thing that separated todays performance from his others was the fact that he was in the final third so much. That enabled him to then really attack the box, as opposed to being on the half way line which was sometimes his trick.

And he didnt just attack in the final third, he also put pressure on the ball there. This allowed the defence to push up and not allow the striker(s) the ball easily, and gave the strikers to support.

If we/Jenas can do that for 90 minutes then we will be an impressive team. But Wigan were poor, and our next fixture will be a much tougher test. I just hope today wasnt JJ's usual one great performance per 2 months routine.

 

[Black]

Dont get carried away people, we all know what happens with Jenas 1 good game then 5/7 bad games, just hope he can carry on that good fourm

 

[DC_Boy]

well done JJ - he is our best CM - mainly because he has goals in him, more than any of our other CMs.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

JJ SUPER J
JJ SUPER J
JJ SUPER J
SUPER JERMAINE JENAS
:bow::bow::bow:

According to the popular opinion on here we should have started with ZOKO & BOATENG though:bang:

JJ is twice the player Zoko is and who knows anything about the prince yet.

 

[JamesTheYiddo]

To the tune of Jermain Defoe Is A Yiddo

Jermaine Jenas Big Penis :dance:

 

[finch101]

JJ is an athletic without doubt has alot of pace which he could use more effectively but cmon some people really who think he's the nuts, when has he ever had a run og good games for spurs, terribly inconsistent, has had two v.good games, probably our easiest fixtures in the prem to date, away from home is a liability against newcastle the bloke was a joke! in my opinion we will never fulfill our champ league top 4 team ambition with jenas in such a pivotal positon, he was one of Jol's untouchables n i think contributed to his downfall.

 

[buttons]

He has the ability to be up there with best, unfortunately he produces a performance like he did today, twice in every 15 games! If Ramos can get the best out of him, im sure he can go on to be an England regular (in the squad atleast)!!

 

[Legend10]

JJ is an athletic without doubt has alot of pace which he could use more effectively but cmon some people really who think he's the nuts, when has he ever had a run og good games for spurs, terribly inconsistent, has had two v.good games, probably our easiest fixtures in the prem to date, away from home is a liability against newcastle the bloke was a joke! in my opinion we will never fulfill our champ league top 4 team ambition with jenas in such a pivotal positon, he was one of Jol's untouchables n i think contributed to his downfall.

Out of interest what would you say were JJ's strengths and weakness's?

How would you use him and who would you say is his ideal midfield partner? And why?

 

[southlondonyiddo]

He may well not be quite as good as the central midfielders at the top 4 clubs but that's not his fault and the rest of the top 4 teams have better players all over the pitch than we do so it's unfair to single out jj

He bloody well is the best of the rest because he's played every league game when fit and we've finished 5th twice. I know that's not good enough for alot of you but it's very difficult to finish top 4 without top 4 players.

The way some idiots talk about JJ you would think he's nothing better than a championship quality midfielder.

 

[Chatterbox1169]

Have always thought that JJ has the potential to be a great player but was just inconsistent. Actualy, I think he'll thrive under Ramos and showed some signs of improvement today - even if it was Wigan.

I did feel sorry for him when he scored today and the crowd sung to Keane because he doesn't have a song. Maybe we should start on. What about:

Jenas, you haven't got a song, you haven't got a song! (same tune as Keano!)

 

[finch101]

Out of interest what would you say were JJ's strengths and weakness's?

How would you use him and who would you say is his ideal midfield partner? And why?

STRENGTHS: athletic, quick, good eye for goal,great engine

WEAKNESSES: very limited passing range, not nearly as creative or direct as we need for his position/our way of playing, cant tackle, terrible inconsistant example this season two good games, Derby Wigan out of almost 20 odd and in with that some very very poor ones Sunderland, Newcastle

Best Partner in Midfield:
Home Zokora possibly Boateng, difficult to tell so far
Away Zokora/Hudd sometimes i'd bench him

Your opinion on the same?

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Have always thought that JJ has the potential to be a great player but was just inconsistent. Actualy, I think he'll thrive under Ramos and showed some signs of improvement today - even if it was Wigan.

I did feel sorry for him when he scored today and the crowd sung to Keane because he doesn't have a song. Maybe we should start on. What about:

Jenas, you haven't got a song, you haven't got a song! (same tune as Keano!)

Yeah spot on.

Whatever the poor sod does he just seems to be 1 of those players the crowd dont have any feelings for. JJ just goes about his job quietly and never plays to the crowd.

JJ SUPER J
JJ SUPER J
JJ SUPER J
SUPER JERMAINE JENAS

 

[Chaplain]

Jenas plays well against poor teams - I think that is his level, a mid-table prem team or a promotion-battling Championship side. I think, with those expectations on him, he'd be able to perform. As we want so much more, I think he can't handle the pressure being the main cog in the midfield...nor do I think he has the ability to play well against other, better midfielders, which both Derby and Wigan lack.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Jenas plays well against poor teams - I think that is his level, a mid-table prem team or a promotion-battling Championship side. I think, with those expectations on him, he'd be able to perform. As we want so much more, I think he can't handle the pressure being the main cog in the midfield...nor do I think he has the ability to play well against other, better midfielders, which both Derby and Wigan lack.

So he's been over-performing massively for 2 seasons then???????

 

[Legend10]

STRENGTHS: athletic, quick, good eye for goal,great engine

WEAKNESSES: very limited passing range, not nearly as creative or direct as we need for his position/our way of playing, cant tackle, terrible inconsistant example this season two good games, Derby Wigan out of almost 20 odd and in with that some very very poor ones Sunderland, Newcastle

Best Partner in Midfield:
Home Zokora possibly Boateng, difficult to tell so far
Away Zokora/Hudd sometimes i'd bench him

Your opinion on the same?

My opinion is that JJ is a player that most fans don't understand where he benefits the team.

You asked in your first post when has JJ had a decent run of games for Spurs.

The answer is when he had a partner who suited his game, by the name of Carrick. JJ isn't suited to playing alongside anyone of our current central midfield players with the possible exception of KPB as we don't really know yet.

As for JJ's strengths the main one is what he is capable of when he doesn't have the ball. He is as good a runner beyond the front 2 we have had for a good while and there aren't too many players around who do it better and he knows how to finish. H ecombines his forward runs with an energy to get back and do all his defensive work.

Weakness's, in short his main 1 at the moment is his partner. After that he isn't the most creative passer in the world however the way he plays it should be his partner (a la Carrick) who posseses this ability, and he is quite often guilty of making the wrong decision when under pressure.

It is no surprise he has his best games against weaker opposition but this sin't to do with JJ, once again it's to do with his partner. The fat that we get better possesion against weaker opposition allows him to go and do what he is good at.

I found it interesting that you decided Hudd may be his best patner away from home, an unusual choice to have a player who lacks mobility in the side when you are likely to have less possesion, that makes no sense to me at all.

As for Zokora, I am yet to see any of our midfield players look decent alongside him, not 1 of them.

JJ brings alot to this team and paired with the right player would bring a hell of a lot more.

And I ignored the bit about can't tackle as heclearly can and does and only a couple of weeks back he was statistically the top tackler in the Premier league.

I think it's already evident that Ramos sees him as his main man in midfield and it really isn't surprising as it's so obvious!

And to JJ well done today son, wouldv'e loved to have seen a hatrick though.

 

[karennina]

Sometimes he looks as if he has good, quick feet, and other times he looks technically limited. Is he technically good or not? I've seen him make some good long distance passes, but very rarely.

 

[Legend10]

Sometimes he looks as if he has good, quick feet, and other times he looks technically limited. Is he technically good or not? I've seen him make some good long distance passes, but very rarely.

Personally I think he is technically good enough, generally he isn't the most creative passer but his other attributes more than make up for this.

 

[N10toN17]

My opinion is that JJ is a player that most fans don't understand where he benefits the team.

You asked in your first post when has JJ had a decent run of games for Spurs.

The answer is when he had a partner who suited his game, by the name of Carrick. JJ isn't suited to playing alongside anyone of our current central midfield players with the possible exception of KPB as we don't really know yet.

As for JJ's strengths the main one is what he is capable of when he doesn't have the ball. He is as good a runner beyond the front 2 we have had for a good while and there aren't too many players around who do it better and he knows how to finish. H ecombines his forward runs with an energy to get back and do all his defensive work.

Weakness's, in short his main 1 at the moment is his partner. After that he isn't the most creative passer in the world however the way he plays it should be his partner (a la Carrick) who posseses this ability, and he is quite often guilty of making the wrong decision when under pressure.

It is no surprise he has his best games against weaker opposition but this sin't to do with JJ, once again it's to do with his partner. The fat that we get better possesion against weaker opposition allows him to go and do what he is good at.

I found it interesting that you decided Hudd may be his best patner away from home, an unusual choice to have a player who lacks mobility in the side when you are likely to have less possesion, that makes no sense to me at all.

As for Zokora, I am yet to see any of our midfield players look decent alongside him, not 1 of them.

JJ brings alot to this team and paired with the right player would bring a hell of a lot more.

And I ignored the bit about can't tackle as heclearly can and does and only a couple of weeks back he was statistically the top tackler in the Premier league.

I think it's already evident that Ramos sees him as his main man in midfield and it really isn't surprising as it's so obvious!

And to JJ well done today son, wouldv'e loved to have seen a hatrick though.

Well said Legend, JJ's strengths lie in getting beyond our frontmen and bursting into the box, using his natural athleticism, the lad can score goals and some bloody good ones to boot, not that many midfielders in the premiership can do it, especially outside of the top four. The key is his partner in midfield, get him the right man, and a little bit more of the Ramos coaching magic and we might have a player on our hands. Finally, I'd very much like to see him get some more vocal support from the supporters, I felt for him today as others got sung to even when he'd scored, if we got behind him a little bit more he might find that consistency we want.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

My opinion is that JJ is a player that most fans don't understand where he benefits the team.

You asked in your first post when has JJ had a decent run of games for Spurs.

The answer is when he had a partner who suited his game, by the name of Carrick. JJ isn't suited to playing alongside anyone of our current central midfield players with the possible exception of KPB as we don't really know yet.

As for JJ's strengths the main one is what he is capable of when he doesn't have the ball. He is as good a runner beyond the front 2 we have had for a good while and there aren't too many players around who do it better and he knows how to finish. H ecombines his forward runs with an energy to get back and do all his defensive work.

Weakness's, in short his main 1 at the moment is his partner. After that he isn't the most creative passer in the world however the way he plays it should be his partner (a la Carrick) who posseses this ability, and he is quite often guilty of making the wrong decision when under pressure.

It is no surprise he has his best games against weaker opposition but this sin't to do with JJ, once again it's to do with his partner. The fat that we get better possesion against weaker opposition allows him to go and do what he is good at.

I found it interesting that you decided Hudd may be his best patner away from home, an unusual choice to have a player who lacks mobility in the side when you are likely to have less possesion, that makes no sense to me at all.

As for Zokora, I am yet to see any of our midfield players look decent alongside him, not 1 of them.

JJ brings alot to this team and paired with the right player would bring a hell of a lot more.

And I ignored the bit about can't tackle as heclearly can and does and only a couple of weeks back he was statistically the top tackler in the Premier league.

I think it's already evident that Ramos sees him as his main man in midfield and it really isn't surprising as it's so obvious!

And to JJ well done today son, wouldv'e loved to have seen a hatrick though.

I disagree a little with you here L10. Jenas's biggest weakness is that he doesn't have the mentality that backs his ability. His performance today was of the highest quality. He was tireless. He broke up their moves and stole the ball. He tackled and harrassed. I was particulrly impressed with the way he charged past everybody to be on the line to tap in the first goal and he took his second like a striker. If that was the first time you'd seen jenas you would think he was one of the top 3 CM's in the country. And he has the potential to be easily. He is the nearest thing I've seen to Viera. And he did it today with one of those partners that you think hinder him. What hinders him is he he isn't always mentally strong enough to impose his "A" game.

Someone started a thread before the season kicked off saying what are we looking for from certain players this year and I said that I wanted Jenas to come of age. I thought the way he finished last season was outstanding - almost single handedly dragging us into 5th at times. And I thought that he start with a more mature belief in his own ability. I keep seeing occasional performances like today and thinking if only he played like this most weeks and especially away from home he could be one of the prems top 3. But he doesn't and it's a fucking shame. I still like him and even on a less than 100% day he's still an important player for us who gets unfairly slated very often by idiots that don't really understand football and the realities of our situation.

 

[SpurSince57]

Can't disagree with that too much, B-C. Maybe we don't have the ideal partner for him, but I think a lot of the problem is simple self-belief; Jol clearly regarded him as our most important CM once Carrick was gone, and I think Legend's right in believing that Ramos has come to the same conclusion. Which doesn't mean that I don't find him very frustrating at times (and I could say the same of most of his team-mates). However, some of the rubbishing he gets is pretty unbelievable.

I couldn't understand why he wasn't handed the captain's armband when Keane went off. It shouldn't be a matter of seniority. Robinson could be Cech and it would still be ridiculous.