Match Threads Marseille Vs Spurs

[Gb160]

Takes all kinds. I'll do me, you do you.

I dont come on here and tell people what they can or cannot say. It's a forum. As long as you stay within the rules you are free to say what you want.

I dont break the rules and quite frankly couldn't give a monkey's left, or right, bollock what you or anybody else thinks.

I'll support spurs in the way I see fit.

You can't say the bold bit, it's not 20 fucking 15.

• Gil worked his ass off to get in position for a rebound while Kane sauntered in. Great and worrying at the same time.

Gil's been on the pitch for about a minute, Kane for about 94 minutes...what is worrying about that?

 

[BorjeSpurs]

I can't believe how poor Marseille handled the situation last night in the dying minutes. The group dynamics was clear, if they win they qualify for CL and if they draw and Frankfurt win then they get Europa League. Getting into the Europa League would be a relatively good result for a team in the 4th seeded group. Surely you would have a game plan, i.e. if Frankfurt are winning and we have a draw, we are going to go for it but not so much that we completely throw away our EL spot.

Here is the additional kicker, the Frankfurt game finished 7-8 minutes before our game due to injuries in the first half, mainly to Son. Their response? The manager tried to scream but the players didn't hear, haha. What you do is that you have a gameplan on how to communicate the message and when they didn't their manager was so frustrated that he went far into the pitch during our final counterattack, knowing they were on their way of shooting themselves out of Europe entirely.

 

[teok]

 

[PCozzie]

Wonder if they'll be retrospective action for them for the lasers and manager running on the pitch, thought he was going to try and tackle Kane lol

Points deduction/3-0 win to the opposition for playing an unregistered player?

 

[PCozzie]

I can't believe how poor Marseille handled the situation last night in the dying minutes. The group dynamics was clear, if they win they qualify for CL and if they draw and Frankfurt win then they get Europa League. Getting into the Europa League would be a relatively good result for a team in the 4th seeded group. Surely you would have a game plan, i.e. if Frankfurt are winning and we have a draw, we are going to go for it but not so much that we completely throw away our EL spot.

Here is the additional kicker, the Frankfurt game finished 7-8 minutes before our game due to injuries in the first half, mainly to Son. Their response? The manager tried to scream but the players didn't hear, haha. What you do is that you have a gameplan on how to communicate the message and when they didn't their manager was so frustrated that he went far into the pitch during our final counterattack, knowing they were on their way of shooting themselves out of Europe entirely.

Haha, glorious.

 

[rossdapep]

Are you saying that this was Marseille fans in the small hours trying to stop our players sleeping ?

I think it's to greet the Marseille team But lool at how organised it is

 

[walworthyid]

You can't say the bold bit, it's not 20 fucking 15.


Gil's been on the pitch for about a minute, Kane for about 94 minutes...what is worrying about that?

Apologies, I'll run it past you next time to make sure I'm using the most up to date parlance.

 

[rossdapep]

I

just watched Pierre 's goal and four things stood out.

• The play started with a pass from Sanchez to Guendouzi who then made a lazy pass that triggered the break
• Davies (I think) who had a decidedly unspectacular game anticipated it really well and stepped up to start the play
• Hundson moans as Kane's little hesitation move froze Mbemba giving Pierre that critical last few centimeters to allow him to get the shot away
• Gil worked his ass off to get in position for a rebound while Kane sauntered in. Great and worrying at the same time.

Watching the goal back and I'm laughing at Tudor's reaction.

Firstly, what the hell is he doing that far on the pitch! I thought he was gonna try to slide into Kane.

Secondly, he was flapping his arms about and as soon as he saw Hojbjerg he resigned himself to the loss and started to walk back off the pitch.

Was funny

 

[soflapaul]

I

Watching the goal back and I'm laughing at Tudor's reaction.

Firstly, what the hell is he doing that far on the pitch! I thought he was gonna try to slide into Kane.

Secondly, he was flapping his arms about and as soon as he saw Hojbjerg he resigned himself to the loss and started to walk back off the pitch.

Was funny

There is a side view of that moment and i swear he gets off the ground for a split second. Human powered flight.

regarding the flap, that's actually the reason i rewatched it and only then was it obvious how much there was to break down. The one defender jogging back and Guenduozi getting frustrated that he wasn't sprinting back on his error. And Guenduozi's body language after the goal went in saying "I mucked up". The far side coverage was also pretty interesting. three attacking players on our last two defenders with a fourth player out wide. Transition across the field would have taken some time but with a clever run or two and the ball coming into the center to pull Hojbjerg out would have required some hustle, good communication and decision making on who's first and who's second defenders.

 

[McFlash]

You also love to pipe up in defence of Conte but don't seem to want to engage in any form of actual discussion about it. So instead of threatening to remove me, nut up and engage in the discussion!

Mate, he was joking.
Lighten up a little, maybe think about redecorating one of your properties, booking your next holiday, or spend some time with your wonderful family.

 

[StockSpur]

didnt Martin Jol always play for a 0-0 draw in the first half?

 

[StockSpur]

Another positive is that absolutely anyone seems to be able to pop up with an important goal this season. Since Kane's consolation against Newcastle our last 6 goalscorers are Bentancur, Sessegnon, Davies, Bentancur, Lenglet and Hojbjerg. None of them recognised goalscorers.

No one can accuse us of solely relying on Kane and Son this season.

and thank goodness for that..

 

[Serpico]

Is there a tactics forum? I'd be happy to hear what others have to say about what they feel Conte is trying to do. I also think that the trophies/performance debate is an interesting one.

He’s trying to do exactly what you are seeing but it’s not being executed well by the players .

 

[SUIYHA]

I can't believe how poor Marseille handled the situation last night in the dying minutes. The group dynamics was clear, if they win they qualify for CL and if they draw and Frankfurt win then they get Europa League. Getting into the Europa League would be a relatively good result for a team in the 4th seeded group. Surely you would have a game plan, i.e. if Frankfurt are winning and we have a draw, we are going to go for it but not so much that we completely throw away our EL spot.

Here is the additional kicker, the Frankfurt game finished 7-8 minutes before our game due to injuries in the first half, mainly to Son. Their response? The manager tried to scream but the players didn't hear, haha. What you do is that you have a gameplan on how to communicate the message and when they didn't their manager was so frustrated that he went far into the pitch during our final counterattack, knowing they were on their way of shooting themselves out of Europe entirely.

I don't know about the rest of you but if I was manager and knew my team was in the Europa if the scores stayed the same, would be out entirely if we concede but got through to the CL last 16 with one goal - I'm sending my keeper to join the attack if we get a set piece in stoppage time.

 

[walworthyid]

Will be a tough game as always made tougher by our injuries.

Hopefully the crowd will keep being positive even if the score or performance isn't.

Perhaps the players will finally follow Conte's instructions, as seems to be the prevailing belief, and be more attacking from the off.

Not expecting much but we shall see.

 

[Trix]

Will be a tough game as always made tougher by our injuries.

Hopefully the crowd will keep being positive even if the score or performance isn't.

Perhaps the players will finally follow Conte's instructions, as seems to be the prevailing belief, and be more attacking from the off.

Not expecting much but we shall see.

Jeez you're miserable, and this is one of your more uplifting posts.

 

[walworthyid]

He’s trying to do exactly what you are seeing but it’s not being executed well by the players .

Logic would certainly suggest that is indeed the case. A manager as astute as conte surely cannot be sending his team out to play that we have been playing.

It is difficult though to understand why it isn't working or why if the players aren't suitable that he doesn't adjust his tactics to suit them?

The fact that we are able to produce 2nd half performances shows that the players are capable.

Hopefully we will see some progress.

 

[SpursSince1980]

I assume he is trying to strike the right balance, but he is failing. Perhaps his instructions and expectations are too rigid and the players feel that they can't improvise? It is a very rigid system.

It is clear that we are more effective when you play positively.

It does have to be said though that this poor first half issue predates conte and was a feature towards thd end of the poch era.

As you say, there are clearly deeper factors issues at play.

You do understand that they are playing in that same ‘rigid’ system, when they play positively, right? The difference is they are starting games passively. Very low intensity. So, if the system was too rigid, how is it they are able to ratchet up the intensity within that system, when they make a mental shift. The system can’t be both the blame for poor starts and be ignored when we play well. Yes, it is a strange conundrum, as you said yourself, it has been a long term issue. Regardless of whatever system they’ve been playing.

 

[walworthyid]

Jeez you're miserable, and this is one of your more uplifting posts.

Have you got nothing better to do mate?

 

[walworthyid]

You do understand that they are playing in that same ‘rigid’ system, when they play positively, right? The difference is they are starting games passively. Very low intensity. So, if the system was too rigid, how is it they are able to ratchet up the intensity within that system, when they make a mental shift. The system can’t be both the blame for poor starts and be ignored when we play well. Yes, it is a strange conundrum, as you said yourself, it has been a long term issue. Regardless of whatever system they’ve been playing.

I was speculating as to the cause of it. It depends which way you want to look at it. The manager sends the players out too restricted/the players aren't intense enough and need a rocket at half time to get going.

Its just speculation and opinion.