Middlesbrough Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

[The Feet of Hoddle]

Poch out!

Seriously WTF hell is wrong with you people?

Seriously, where the fuck did I say Poch out? It is bullshit from posters like you that cause a lot of frictions and arguments in this forums.

I am just pointing out, that sitting back and holding onto the lead is not good enough for us and we rarely do it well, ManU, ManC, Leicester, Arsenal, maybe not Chelsea though, Blackburn too when they won the league, never stopped attacking in most games once they went ahead they aimed to score more goals, showing no mercy, that mean streak that we need. Something we started showing signs of last year.

And it clearly showed yesterday when we took our foot off the boil and sat back thinking the job was done.

But no, you have to post Poch out... ....... ......

 

[ziggy]

Any match highlights?

Saw MOTD as I hadn't seen the game only read the thread here during the match.

Their highlights didn't seem to reflect our dominance showed no penalty incidents and was fairly short compared to the Sky 4s games

 

[nightgoat]

Seriously WTF hell is wrong with you people?

Seriously, where the fuck did I say Poch out? It is bullshit from posters like you that cause a lot of frictions and arguments in this forums.

I am just pointing out, that sitting back and holding onto the lead is not good enough for us and we rarely do it well, ManU, ManC, Leicester, Arsenal, maybe not Chelsea though, Blackburn too when they won the league, never stopped attacking in most games once they went ahead they aimed to score more goals, showing no mercy, that mean streak that we need. Something we started showing signs of last year.

And it clearly showed yesterday when we took our foot off the boil and sat back thinking the job was done.

But no, you have to post Poch out... ....... ......

Leicester never stopped attacking.

 

[djw1973]

Watched the whole game. We completely dominated the game in the first half, should have had 2 penalties and Dele missed a sitter. Only when they introduced Adama Traore did they look dangerous. His runs were extremely threatening, but his final ball was terrible. We are susceptible from crosses and there goal and best chance of the game which Rhodes headed straight at Lloris came from width.

Apart from that Middlebrough did nothing. This is the type of game www old have lost or drawn in the past. We ar still unbeaten, 2nd in the Prem, above Lescum and played without Dier, Rose and Kane - all is well!

The only concern for me is Janssen. He played well, but in all fairness never looked like scoring. We need him to step up in Kane's absence if we are to do well. City next and Poch had a great record against Pep's Barca, so bring it on!

 

[stevenurse]

Watched the whole game. We completely dominated the game in the first half, should have had 2 penalties and Dele missed a sitter. Only when they introduced Adama Traore did they look dangerous. His runs were extremely threatening, but his final ball was terrible. We are susceptible from crosses and there goal and best chance of the game which Rhodes headed straight at Lloris came from width.

Apart from that Middlebrough did nothing. This is the type of game www old have lost or drawn in the past. We ar still unbeaten, 2nd in the Prem, above Lescum and played without Dier, Rose and Kane - all is well!

The only concern for me is Janssen. He played well, but in all fairness never looked like scoring. We need him to step up in Kane's absence if we are to do well. City next and Poch had a great record against Pep's Barca, so bring it on!

cant believe you forgot Dembele!

 

[stevenurse]

I think people questioning Janssen are kind of missing the point of the type of striker he seems to be. From the admittedly limited amount Ive seen of him, he seems to be utilised as a foil for the myriad of attacking midfielders we have and although he might not score Kane-esque amounts in the premier league, he will create lots with his hold up play. Son's first goal is a prime example of the type of goals we will be scoring while Kane is out. I fully expect Lamela, Eriksen to score more, and its been shown so far with Son

 

[ajspurs]

I think people questioning Janssen are kind of missing the point of the type of striker he seems to be. From the admittedly limited amount Ive seen of him, he seems to be utilised as a foil for the myriad of attacking midfielders we have and although he might not score Kane-esque amounts in the premier league, he will create lots with his hold up play. Son's first goal is a prime example of the type of goals we will be scoring while Kane is out. I fully expect Lamela, Eriksen to score more, and its been shown so far with Son

Well yeah which is fine, he does bring others into play very well but he was quite prolific in Holland wasn't he? That's the only reason why I think he can give more to the team, because he knows where the back of the net is. Not the I have a problem with him doing what he's doing at all but he is a striker after all and regardless of what else he may be able to do well the guy will want to be primarily known for scoring goals.

 

[stevenurse]

Well yeah which is fine, he does bring others into play very well but he was quite prolific in Holland wasn't he? That's the only reason why I think he can give more to the team, because he knows where the back of the net is. Not the I have a problem with him doing what he's doing at all but he is a striker after all and regardless of what else he may be able to do well the guy will want to be primarily known for scoring goals.

of course but we all know how weak the dutch league is in comparison. He's adapted his game thus far and who's to say he wont hit the ground running once he gets his first PL goal, just like Kane. Id liken him to Giroud but with a better pressing game, which is no bad thing. Not a world beater but will do more for the team than simply score 30 a season. Once up to speed, he'll be a more than adequate rotation for Kane.

 

[ajspurs]

of course but we all know how weak the dutch league is in comparison. He's adapted his game thus far and who's to say he wont hit the ground running once he gets his first PL goal, just like Kane. Id liken him to Giroud but with a better pressing game, which is no bad thing. Not a world beater but will do more for the team than simply score 30 a season. Once up to speed, he'll be a more than adequate rotation for Kane.

Yeah I've likened him to Giroud too. Despite how the Dutch league was he's certainly capable of scoring more in this league as he's yet to score from open play. Sounds like I'm criticising him but I don't mean to be, I'm excited by him and I actually have no problem with him doing what he's doing in bringing others into play to get the goals but as I've said numerous times, if we can get him doing what he's doing now plus scoring goals fairly regularly then wow, he will be immense. Would be like a perfect striker.

 

[TropicalYid]

This is Janssens first start. Lets give him some time eh.
He did fairly well yesterday. Also imagine he will get some more space in coming matches. Boro was under constant pressure and had most players in their own box at times, leaving little space for Janssen.

 

[Hazardousman]

Christ he's off again...
There were loads of subs and Sissoko was almost knocked out at one point....it was 5 minutes, not 15, hardly cause to 'investigate' the officials.

Just because you believe corruption and incompetence is impossible in this league does not mean I have to believe the same thing.

The ref got it wrong yesterday, corruption or incompetence take your pick, either way it needs investigating, they should be held responsible for their mistakes and they never are, hence why it continues to happen.

 

[Hazardousman]

Why moan about the 5 minutes? Did it cost us points? No! There are going to be games when we will be trailing and you are going to wish we had at least 5 minutes more!

And if they would have scored in the 5th minute of added time would you still be sitting here saying that? Or would you be questioning where he got 5 mins from? Because I have seen games that have had multiple injuries and time wasting that have had less than 5 mins added on.

I can't believe people seem to believe refs doing this in a suspicious way is impossible especially after watching United under Ferguson who would consistently get more added mins, I seem to remember reading a stat a few years ago saying in the history of the prem United had more added mins at the end of games than any other team combined but you know, let's pretend this is stuff does not happen and bias/corruption/incompetence does not play a part.

Even if you rule out corruption and bias on behalf of refs then what? Are we simply saying it's ok that incompetence at this level is ok and should not be investigated? Ref's have far too much protection for the amount of influence they have on games imo.

Feel free to disagree but that's just my opinion.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Been reading a few negative comments on here about Janssen, but I think we all need to cut him some slack and get behind the boy, negativity isn't going to help, he needs the backing of the fans. Sure he's different to Kane and it doesn't look like he's the type of player to run at people and get people off their seats so much which is maybe what everyone wants but Pochettino and the scouting staff obviously saw qualities that he could bring to the team. For example he keeps the ball well and brings others into play. I'm sure he's going to improve. I remember when Kane first came on the scene most fans were only happy to have him as a 3rd/4th choice striker but look how he developed.

Those same "fans" wanted Lamela and Son run out of the club in their respective first seasons. They have no clue whatsoever what a first season is like for an overseas player to come to the fastest paced football league ion World football. None whatsoever.

Janssesn has played one full PL game and they expect him so be the second coming of Jimmy Greaves.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

We played very well in the first half, however, we seemed to go down a gear in the second half.

Boro were never going to give us as much space in the second half, that much was bloody obvious. The second half proved more difficult but we cannot expect to play away and the home side not have large parts of the play. What was evident is despite that we could still have scored two more so it wasn't like we were shored up in our own half for forty five minutes. And as BC said what genuine chances did they actually create?

 

[Vincent30]

Should still have product it is simple as that, otherwise we could have played a very fast youth player who is direct would have sufficed and saved ourselves £30 million. For that price range I want product as well.

What a silly comment, so why buy any player if we need 'insert attribute' in our team, just find a youth player with 'said attribute' and chuck him in?!?

Give this guy a little respect he was easily one of the best players at the Euro's, and i don't really know how you define product? Goal, assist? Like a clear end product?

Much like when Dembele was struggling with form, people struggled with his 'product', attribute wise Sissoko has pace, directness, strength, experience..... a lot of qualities we have lacked from our other attacking players. But of course we shouldn't have paid 30m for a premier league experienced player, an interenational experienced player, let's find little Danny who's 17 and can run fast! Hilarious.

It was the guys second start for us, let's give him a little time to adapt and find fitness before completely losing faith in him.

 

[Bilko]

Saw MOTD as I hadn't seen the game only read the thread here during the match.

Their highlights didn't seem to reflect our dominance showed no penalty incidents and was fairly short compared to the Sky 4s games

No time after spending 5 minutes verbally kissing Klopp's arse

 

[Mr Pink]

It's funny how you just say he can hold the ball up like it's an easy skill. Showing the strength that he does with his back to goal in a league of this quality and having the ability to lay it off to team mates is very difficult, i'm actually struggling to name 3 other stikers in this league that show hold up lay as good as his. It really is a great part of his game and a skill that should be massivley applauded not just accepted.

I'm a huge Kane fan but when he has had this dip in form, 2 goals in 13 games, the rest of his game has also suffered and sometimes he has zero impact on the game, at least with Janssen you know 80% of the time you give the ball into him he won't lose it and link up play. Plus i love his attitude and he just had 90 minutes mid week, this guy has a lot to deal with now, he is leading the line for a big club in a new league. How anyone cannot be really happy with how is performing is pretty mind blowing.

Really happy with how we are developeing. OUR SQUAD, take a minute and look at it. What a fucking squad, we are spoilt for choice now, you compare this to the 30 odd years i've supported this club, what Levy and Poch have achieved and presented us with is quite amazing. I don't really see many weakness, we have a great mix of strength, technique, power and pace now. We have some truly talented younger individuals that can challenge for the first team in a year or two - Winks, Onomah, CCV, Edwards.

One further thing, Sissoko, it seems because of his price tag (lets call him a 20m buy because of the ridiculous inflation), he wasn't great yesterday but people seem to forget the impact of having such players on the pitch. Because of his pace and directness he attracted other defenders, thus making it easier for Eriksen and Son, he nearly scored it was a good save from their keeper and he is finding some match fitness. Let's support our players - he brings power and explosivness which is much needed when you look at Alli, Lamela, Eriksen etc, he adds some real balance to our team and a different option.

Great times, 2nd in the league, great youth team performance in the cup and the team starting to show higher energy levels and creativity.

Great post, the people who can't wait to complain or write off certain players should read this post and let it sink in.

 

[ardiles]

Last season, we tended to be stronger in the second half due to our superior fitness. It hasn't been much of the same , so far, this season.

 

[Bilko]

It's called schaden freude here in Germany - when you enjoy some one else having problems - but I'm pissing myself laughing at West Ham supporters in their SHIT STADIUM.
Think yourselves fukin lucky to be spurs supporters boys

 

[djw1973]

cant believe you forgot Dembele!

Who?

Oops, been out for so long I forgot about him. Considering how important he was last year, we seem to have gotten over the issues that we have when he doesn't start.