Next spurs manager?

[Azrael]

I don't understand the bit about 'he wants the ride possible', sorry.

Should have been "easiest".

And I wasn't assuming he's going to City, but if you're going to discuss Mourinho coming back to England and which club he might end up at, I think City have to be part of that discussion.

Not saying they won't seek him, I just don't think he'll bite.

What I was actually trying to say, and apologies if it wasn't clear, is that we are in with a shout because it's the sort of challenge that appeals to him (and his ego, in my opinion).

Good :up:

 

[Azrael]

No, but they're close. You're certainly underrating just how big Liverpool are, to say a 5th place finish to their 6th changes things is .. well .. :duh:

I don't see players like Ronaldo and Kaka lining up to join Liverpool.....

We don't all live in your world where everyone answers to Tottenham Hotspur, SP.

Equally we don't live in your world where Tottenham Hotspur is a club in midtable obscurity.

 

[brett.spurs]

Equally we don't live in your world where Tottenham Hotspur is a club in midtable obscurity.

Where have I said that? There's 5 other English clubs ahead of us in the pecking order for future players and managers, that's not pessimism, it's realism.

 

[StartingPrice]

We don't all live in your world where everyone answers to Tottenham Hotspur, SP.

Equally we don't live in your world where Tottenham Hotspur is a club in midtable obscurity.

Thank-you, Az.
Brett, I think I have a very clear idea of where we stand, I think you have a very limited one.
We have the tradition to aspire to challenge at the top, we have the players to challenge at the top, very soon we will have the stadium (I hope) to facilitate that challenge at the top, we also have a chairman who is determined to make us challengers, and has shown every sign of delivering.
The obstacles are sizeable.
Liverpool have a poor squad, no money, and no stadium.
You need to get over your inferiority complex.

 

[brett.spurs]

Liverpool have a poor squad that is one place behind us in the league.

Liverpool have a poor stadium that is bigger than ours.

Liverpool have no money .. are you sure? You're aware they were recently taken over yes?

 

[StartingPrice]

Where have I said that? There's 5 other English clubs ahead of us in the pecking order for future players and managers, that's not pessimism, it's realism.

Brett, it's not realism.
United are above us in the pecking order - but will they be if Red Nose leaves, the Glazer's continue to bleed the club,and the glory hunter fans desert them, while we continue to grow?
With Chelsea, you don't seem to realise you are making our point for us. Chelsea are not a patch on us, historically. All they are is a clubu of medium stature who inherited a lot of money...and consequently have suddenly become a bigger pull. take away the money...and:shrug:
The ArseScum are a bigger pull than us, bit not massively so, and anyone with any perspective can see that the gap is closing.
Citeh - read Chelsea, but not as good and without the success.
Liverpool - we've already been through that one, and were argument deserts you you have returned to assertion. We are probably as much of a pull as Liverpool, now...achieve CL qualification this season, and Liverpool not, and I believe we will have (at least temporarily) overtaken them.

 

[StartingPrice]

Liverpool have a poor squad that is one place behind us in the league. Will they overtake us - I don't think so. Would they be if they hadn't had the 'King Kev Honeymoon period' - I don't think so.Did I say they had a vastly inferior 1st team - I don't think so. I specifically said they have a poor squad.

Liverpool have a poor stadium that is bigger than ours. But does it gernerate as much revenue. You are aware that our stadium generates a disproportionate match-day income due to the large number of executive boxes - YES?

Liverpool have no money .. are you sure? You're aware they were recently taken over yes? I have no definite proof of it, and I am sure that they have enough to make some 'impressive' purchases. But what has that done, so far - replaced Torres with two players who might be good. Has it overhauled their squad - NO. But I am pretty certain that I have read that they have no immediate plans to ressurrect their stadium plans - and assume that is because they cannot bankroll it. I may be wrong.

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[3Dnata]

John Sitton.
We can all bring our dinners.

 

[StartingPrice]

p.s. The last time I looked Steven Pienaar chose Spurs over Chelsea (don't care if he'sa player you don't rate):razz:

 

[Azrael]

I think Brett, for whatever reason, prefers to submit himself to the joy that is mid-table obscurity.


Maybe he is into S&M.

 

[danielneeds]

With Chelsea, you don't seem to realise you are making our point for us. Chelsea are not a patch on us, historically. All they are is a clubu of medium stature who inherited a lot of money...and consequently have suddenly become a bigger pull. take away the money...and:shrug:

Unfortunately this is a tremendously myopic comparison between the two clubs.

Yes of course historically they were not a patch on us, but their recent achievements - however achieved - mean they have more titles than us, a far bigger global fan base, and now one of the world's true marquee players in Torres.

They have become a bigger club than us, just in our lifetime unfortunately, and if Roman gets bored and decides to sell, there will be no shortage of wealthy prospective owners who want the cache of owning them. Sad but true.

 

[StartingPrice]

Unfortunately this is a tremendously myopic comparison between the two clubs.

Yes of course historically they were not a patch on us, but their recent achievements - however achieved - mean they have more titles than us, a far bigger global fan base, and now one of the world's true marquee players in Torres.

They have become a bigger club than us, just in our lifetime unfortunately, and if Roman gets bored and decides to sell, there will be no shortage of wealthy prospective owners who want the cache of owning them. Sad but true.

How is it?
I have just said what you have said with less words.
And you don't seem to get the point I was making...which was that Brett seems to think Liverpool will always have a bigger pull than us based upon historic success and tradition, to which I compared the fact that he is saying Chelsea have a bigger pull than us inspite of historic successmand tradition because they recently inherited a large amount of money and brought success with it.

 

[Azrael]

At the end of the day football is about comings and going. To assume certain clubs will always be on top because of history is foolish.

Chelsea are a perfect example of why we absolutely can overtake others.

Are Liverpool now bigger than Chelsea? I think not.

 

[brett.spurs]

I haven't said we can't overturn that, but it's going to take a lot more than 2 years of finishing in 4th and 5th place.

If foreign player X was offered the chance to sign for Spurs, he'd first find out whether Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool are interested, if not then he'd see how many millions he could screw out of City, if they even said no, only then would he join us.

And it will stay that way until we're consistently finishing above them and genuinely challenging for the League/CL year in-year out - not once every 50 years.

 

[StockSpur]

im a big fan of steve bruce actually.

 

[StartingPrice]

1) I haven't said we can't overturn that, but it's going to take a lot more than 2 years of finishing in 4th and 5th place.

2) If foreign player X was offered the chance to sign for Spurs, he'd first find out whether Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool are interested, if not then he'd see how many millions he could screw out of City, if they even said no, only then would he join us.

3) And it will stay that way until we're consistently finishing above them and genuinely challenging for the League/CL year in-year out - not once every 50 years.

1) But you did state categorically that 5 clubs are ahead of us in the pecking order. I dispute that. I think we are pretty much on a par with liverpool now. Very close to ArseScum. Behind Citeh and Chelsea largely due to freakish amonts of money, and not footballing reasons/quality of current players. And behind United, clearly, but with reason for optimism. You also seem to be drawing a 100% line, whereas I always see it in terms of percentages. A certian percentageof times, based on numerous factors, we will sign a player who another team are interested in. This percentage depends on the team and can change. With United, for instance, they will probably win at least 85% (and probably far more) transfer tussles with us - but, occasionally a player will choose us (maybe as he thinks he has more chance of first team football, for instance). For the same reason, teams who are fardown the pecking order to us do occasionally convince a player to sign when we are interested.

2) Sorry, Brett,but that is just nonsense. I have already given the example fo Pienaar choosing us over Chelsea, and Suarez issueing (allegedly) a come-and-get-me plea to us even though Liverpool had stated their intentions. And you have no way of knowing that all players always ask these questions.

3) I agree. But this is where we seem to be at such variance. What myself, Azand others are saying is that the balance is changing, and changing in our favour now, right now, as we speak. You seem to think we are Stoke, or summit.

 

[Coyboy]

Someone foreign. Anyone foreign.

We have had this before; I don't buy into Coyle but would prefer Moyes or O'Neil.

 

[southgatespur40]

laurent blanc perhaps?

but it would be mourinho if i had the choice of any manager out there.

 

[Matt C]

If we can't get Mourinho we should go all out to get the new Mourinho, this Villas-Boas guy looks a bit special, cut his teeth under Jose and has now eclipsed him at Porto

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

Andre Villas Boas or Mourinho Mark 2 as he is also known, if we can't get the real thing then let's get the next best thing.