Match Ratings Ratings vs Everton

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Some of these ratings are very agenda-based, it’s unreal. 4/5s and lower for Doherty who had an okay match (nothing good, not too much bad), to 8s for PEH who cost us two goals?

Can’t we all just be realistic and blame it all on Winksy.

 

[lincspurs]

Some of these ratings are very agenda-based, it’s unreal. 4/5s and lower for Doherty who had an okay match (nothing good, not too much bad), to 8s for PEH who cost us two goals?

Can’t we all just be realistic and blame it all on Winksy.

And Ali, but Winks was a horror show and I’ve been one of his biggest fans until recently.
Actually thought Doherty was much better today, defensively & attacking wise, can’t believe we subbed him for Sissoko.
Moura is so unreliable, don’t think even he knows what he’s going to do next, so what chance does his teammates have. There was a spell in the 1st half when he lost it or gave it away 5 or 6 times on the bounce.

 

[Marty]

I realise the votes for Winks are ironic, but Son gets far too much praise for doing not that much, when he's good he's good, but he's not been that great in quite a few games, including this one

That's the first time I've ever heard four assists being described as not that much.

I still think Lamela edged him for MOM which shows how good Lamela was.

 

[mumfordspur]

Thanks for the ratings shipmates I really enjoy your reviews and scores.
I cannot add anything as I havent seen the match (she insisted on watching some prog with Sandi Toksvig on and I thought I would wait for the QF draw to see if we avoided Citeh).

From reading your reports at least is seems yesterday's spat about Hayley Lloris being the best/worst keeper in the PL has been finally put to bed.

 

[carpediem991]

He scored two crucial goals...

For Richarlison’s 2nd goal, Sanchez was caught ball watching but Doherty and Toby playing him onside when he’s behind Sanchez puts equal blame on them. Especially as they were not marking anyone at the time. That’s poor awareness and communication from the defense as a whole.

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Another case of poor communication for Bernard’s goal. Nobody tracks Bernard’s run in the box. Sanchez is marking Richarlison in the middle of the pitch and maintaining the line. Not sure why you are blaming him for Bernards goal...

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The whole positioning of everyone is embarrassing. There is no straight line of the back 4, no one close enough to the player with the ball and all in all no awareness.

Honestly, what is Ledley doing with them?

 

[Nicki78]

Lloris - 4

Doherty - 5
Sanchez - 8
Alderweireld - 6
Davies - 5

Hojbjerg - 8
Ndombele - 7

Son - 6
Lamela - 9
Lucas - 5
Bergwijn - 5

Kane - 7
Dele - 0
Winks - (-3)
Sissoko - 2
Vinicius - 3

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Son a 6 - really? I thought everything good came from him going forward (he assisted all 4 goals). Certainly cannot blame him for any of the goals conceded. Not sure how he gets the same rating as Toby and lower than Hojbjerg.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Honestly, what is Ledley doing with them?

Waiting for the caretaker role?

 

[spids]

Lloris 6 - Very weak for their equaliser. Most of the goals were great finishes though.
Doherty 7 - I thought he played pretty well, defended diligently.
Alderweireld 6 - Wasn't particularly bad, not sure how we conceded 5.
Sanchez 6 - Two goals. Pretty solid. But we conceded 5.
Davies 6 - Again - not bad.
Højbjerg - 6 - Gave the ball away for their first and, whilst a little unlucky conceding it, it was clumsy defending for the penalty.
Ndombele - 7 - We missed him massively when he went off, manly due to the ineptitude of Winks.
Lamela - 7
Bergwijn - 7 - Looked fast and dangerous in a good start but faded.
Moura - 6 - Started brilliantly and was well up for it, but after 30 mins his heavy touch re-surfaced.
Son - 7 - Better on the left and a world class cross for Kane's goal.

Subs:
Kane 8 - Comes on, scores.
Dele - 7 - Thought he did o.k. Would like to see him get a run in the CAM role whilst Lo Celso is injured.
Winks 3 - Just not good enough. His mistake cost us a goal. His shooting with his stronger foot is frankly embarrassing. Cannot tackle. Poor positioning defensively. Weak aerially. Passing in the final third is haphazard.
Sissoko - 6 - Shame he cannot cross.
Vinicius - 6 - Really tries, hard to judge without a run of games.

Mourinho - 7 - I thought individual mistakes let him down. We played aggressively and our CBs actually pushed up when we attacked making the pitch smaller and it easier for our attacking players to look dangerous, especially first half. He will know the 3 positions we need to improve, and the squad players who are not good enough as deputies. Hopefully Levy will open the purse strings this summer (if possible!).

That was actually the most entertaining football match I have seen for a very long time and I really enjoyed it despite the loss.

Dreading this weekend's game as I think we could get really hammered by an in-form Man City given our level of individual mistakes and general fitness levels.

 

[Marty]

Eagle - Lamela, Son
Birdie - Kane, Sanchez, Ndombele
Par - Doherty, Højbjerg, Lucas, Vinicius, Bergwijn
Bogey - Lloris, Toby, Davies, Sissoko, Dele
Double bogey - Winks

Very rarely is the gulf between our best and worst performers as wide as it was last night. I have often defended Winks and I do believe he'd be better if given a run in a side where he didn't primarily sit deep but he's becoming indefensible and this half hour was just dreadful.

It is certainly very hard for a fan of the club such as he is to admit it but both he himself and the club need him to move on in the summer.

 

[Trix]

The whole positioning of everyone is embarrassing. There is no straight line of the back 4, no one close enough to the player with the ball and all in all no awareness.

Honestly, what is Ledley doing with them?

Lol now it's Ledleys fault.

 

[CrazyHeart]

Kudos to MOTOM Lamela, not just for this game but for setting an example that work rate and caring about the team pays off. Hope his incredible run continues...

 

[ultimateloner]

Atouba comes to mind

He's better than that. It's just that you would rather be beating players further up the pitch because the risk of losing the ball is worthwhile if you could get a clean shot on goal.

At the moment he's doing it much in the center of the field. Yes it opens up the game but it's too far back for anything direct to happen; and if someone catches you (which happened a few times e.g. against Brighton) then it's a 3 v 3 or 4 v 3 situaiton; high risk of conceding.

 

[carpediem991]

Lol now it's Ledleys fault.

Its not Ledleys fault. It was a question as he is our defensive coach, isn't he? Not saying he can turn everyone into good footballers over night...

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Hojberg cost the game, there wouldn't have been extra time or Winks If not for him. Lloris being obvious main competitor for that title.

I know this is not a popular opinion and he's obviously been one of our best performers this season but he was culpable for 2 of our goals today. I don't think there is any getting away from that. If Winks had made the same mistakes he would be getting absolute pelters.

 

[theShiznit]

Son a 6 - really? I thought everything good came from him going forward (he assisted all 4 goals). Certainly cannot blame him for any of the goals conceded. Not sure how he gets the same rating as Toby and lower than Hojbjerg.

I thought first half Son was quite poor and often good moves broke down from his inability to link quickly with teammates, yet he got two assists, the corner and the lucky pass straight through Mina to Lamela.
He often found himself in great positions on the right edge of the box but didn't know what to do and ended up just shooting weakly straight at the defender.
When he moved to the left he was much better as he was allowed to isolate the fullback and take him on, Son is great at the individual stuff but like Moura he is not great at pass and move football.

 

[Blake Griffin]

not that i'm his biggest fan but i thought sissoko actually did alright? gave us more attacking impetus in 20 mins than doherty did in 100 and wasn't it his cross for kane's chance?

 

[mr ashley]

not that i'm his biggest fan but i thought sissoko actually did alright? gave us more attacking impetus in 20 mins than doherty did in 100 and wasn't it his cross for kane's chance?

Yes, totally fair assessment.
As one of his biggest critics, he came on and added something positive.
His crossing in general needs work (I often think he crosses too early), but his cross for Kane was a good one

 

[mr ashley]

I know this is not a popular opinion and he's obviously been one of our best performers this season but he was culpable for 2 of our goals today. I don't think there is any getting away from that. If Winks had made the same mistakes he would be getting absolute pelters.

Blaming Hojbjerg for the penalty is about as harsh as you can get.
culpable or just unlucky?

 

[Japhet]

Blaming Hojbjerg for the penalty is about as harsh as you can get.
culpable or just unlucky?

Pathetic decision but what the game has become. Wish we could go back to when a penalty was given for an actual foul, not this sort of shit.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Blaming Hojbjerg for the penalty is about as harsh as you can get.
culpable or just unlucky?

Unlucky but it doesn't mean he wasn't reponsible. If it was Dier or Davinson in the same situation I don't think many would be saying 'unlucky'.