Robbo Injured

[teddyboy]

I think we should tempt Chelski with a sensible offer for Cudicini when the transfer window reopens, he must be desperate for a good run in any side by now.

Would give Robbo the competition he needs to get himself back to best, things look far to cosy for him at the moment IMO.

 

[SpurSince57]

Cudicini is perfectly happy getting paid very large sums of money for warming the bench and taking flying lessons. He's said so himself.

Finding a top-class keeper to give Robinson some decent competition or even replace him is a lot easier said than done.

 

[The Apprentice]

Dmitri Kharine is looking for a club.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Dmitri Kharine is looking for a club.

Was that a news item on Football Manager or something?

:lol:

 

[Bus-Conductor]

My stringent standards? I was speaking of those of SC in general.

I'm curiously reminded of the witch-hunt against Stalteri two years ago, when he single-handedly cost us fourth place (according to those with the brains of a Toilet Duck), and the Bring Back Steo Brigade. Let's hope Cerny does rather better than Kelly.

Of whom, as you know, I was a "stringent" defender.

I like to think I apply stringent standards fairly. Trying to put asside favouritism and popularity. Stalteri did his job (defending), week in week out. He didn't look as stylish doing it as Chimbonda but he was better at actually just defending alot of the time.

Robinson on the other hand is all swagger and crowd pleasing gestures, when it comes to goalkeeping he is inept at doing what they are supposed to do.

Cerny may have a stinker, but that won't make Robinson a good goalie.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Of whom, as you know, I was a "stringent" defender.

I like to think I apply stringent standards fairly. Trying to put asside favouritism and popularity. Stalteri did his job (defending), week in week out. He didn't look as stylish doing it as Chimbonda but he was better at actually just defending alot of the time.

Robinson on the other hand is all swagger and crowd pleasing gestures, when it comes to goalkeeping he is inept at doing what they are supposed to do.

Cerny may have a stinker, but that won't make Robinson a good goalie.

He's not a good goalie and he's inept? Eek

He's in the wrong game. He's managed to convince judges like O'Leary, Venables, Pleat, SGE, McClown (Yeah I'll give you that one), Jol and others that he's at least 'good' and far from inept.

He shouldn't be a goalkeeper he should be a confidence trickster!

Kidding aside, that's a bit harsh isn't it BC? I mean, all due respect, but you ain't exactly sitting side by side with the names in that list when it comes to judging a player :wink:

Perhaps he's a bloody good goalkeeper who was probably affected more than he admits by that goal in Croatia and for many reasons, which SS57 has given many times has hit a huge low both in form and confidence.

 

[degoose]

i dont like the fact that robinson is injured but it does freshen things up a bit, cerny has done well in the past but has never had a string of games to play really well. He looks like a verious serious player and will want to prove himself. Good luck to him, competition in all positions is always good.

 

[Northernspurs]

He has also had a lot of marital problems. My missus kind of knows his wife and they have had problems ever since he got caught cheating on her a couple of years back.

 

[thinktank]

If Cerny has a stinker it won't change my mind about Robinson. I wonder if Cerny has a stinker if certain people will have as many excuses for it as they do with Robinson.

Post of the day.

I've got every faith in Cerny, he's been ridiculously patient and deserves a run between the sticks.

 

[idlepete]

I've got every faith in Cerny, he's been ridiculously patient and deserves a run between the sticks.

I don't know why people think this... We signed Cerny as capable cover for Robbo. We bought him specifically not to compete with Robbo, as a show of faith in Robbo's abilities, much like when we handed him his 7 year deal. Cerny moved as a backup keeper from a smaller team to be a backup keeper in a bigger team. I think we'll miss Robbo's strengths badly, particularly his distribution. I don't have faith in Cerny myself, I'm just praying he's up to the job on Monday night and that this decision doesn't come to bite us on the ass any more than it already has.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

He's not a good goalie and he's inept? Eek

He's in the wrong game. He's managed to convince judges like O'Leary, Venables, Pleat, SGE, McClown (Yeah I'll give you that one), Jol and others that he's at least 'good' and far from inept.

He shouldn't be a goalkeeper he should be a confidence trickster!

Kidding aside, that's a bit harsh isn't it BC? I mean, all due respect, but you ain't exactly sitting side by side with the names in that list when it comes to judging a player :wink:

Perhaps he's a bloody good goalkeeper who was probably affected more than he admits by that goal in Croatia and for many reasons, which SS57 has given many times has hit a huge low both in form and confidence.

If you look back you will find I was critical of Robinson a season or two before the croatia thing - which actually was not his fault.

I think if you have a decent footballing brain, not to be confused with academic genius, you don't necessarily have to have achieved a FIFA coaching badge or played top flight football to actually be better at spotting players, tactics and reading the game than many that have those qualifications.

I would also wager that I'm a better footballer than Jose Mourinho. So does that instantly qualify me as the best manager in the league.

Ericson never worked out that a team needs to interact, not be a collection of the most famous individuals.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I think if you have a decent footballing brain, not to be confused with academic genius, you don't necessarily have to have achieved a FIFA coaching badge or played top flight football to actually be better at spotting players, tactics and reading the game than many that have those qualifications.

Am I to understand that you really think you know better?

And to think fate has you clipping tickets instead of preparing a team for a visit to Old Trafford or somesuch. Oh what a cruel hand she's dealt you.

Come on BC, you aren't saying all of those people are wrong and you're right are you?

I would also wager that I'm a better footballer than Jose Mourinho. So does that instantly qualify me as the best manager in the league.

Why not? Go for it. :lol:


Cheers BC, you've brightened up my day. :wink:

 

[eddiebailey]

Do we still have Button on the books? If so does anyone know how he's done? Worthy of a place on the bench?

Injured. Missed a lot of last season, and has yet to play this. Former Arsenal trainee Lee Butcher has been signed as cover. If Ben Alnwick is not recalled it will be Tommy Forecast on the bench.

 

[sloth]

Am I to understand that you really think you know better?

And to think fate has you clipping tickets instead of preparing a team for a visit to Old Trafford or somesuch. Oh what a cruel hand she's dealt you.

Come on BC, you aren't saying all of those people are wrong and you're right are you?



Why not? Go for it. :lol:

Cheers BC, you've brightened up my day. :wink:

That's a scoundrel's argument A&C. If the experts thought Robbo was at fault for the all the goals he's conceded would they be right? I could equally well trot out all the people who've been saying Robbo's being playing really badly, that his form is the pits for his club and who said he was responsible for Russia's winner the other day.

You can't wield that particular cudgel unless you're prepared to have it used against you in turn. The number of experts backing BC's version of events far outweigh the number backing the laudably loyal minority of spurs supporters who wish to mitigate every mistake he makes. That doesn't carry the argument though and you'd be incensed if i were to suggest it did.

Lastly, it's a bit pointless arguing semantically that Robbo's a good keeper, because he's clearly better than the vast majority of keepers. A dog fish is a very big fish indeed when compared to your average gold-fish, he's just not that impressive when you compare him to the other sharks in the sea. You've got to judge Robbo by the quality of his peers in the pool in which he swims.

 

[Adam]

I know people are ridiculing the conspiracy idea, but if you watched past full time of the england game they showed the players walking back down the tunnel to the dressing rooms and robinson was walking perfectly fine, not hobbling at all and not talking to a physio-you'd think if he had a strain that he may have been speaking to a coach/physio about as soon as he left the pitch? Maybe im wrong and they do tests after every game on the players or he only started to feel it in the warm down but otherwise it would seem a little bit odd if he actually was injured because all the signs were that he looked fine.

 

[PLTuck]

hallefuckinglujah! finally we get to see if it it really is that fat twat who has ruined our season.

stalteri is a joke, he's canadian for god's sake what does he knw abt football soorry soccer!

:shhh:

I find your post offensive. I can't be bothered to argue with you re : Stalteri but please, please cut out the prejudiced remarks.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

That's a scoundrels argument A&C. If the experts thought Robbo was at fault for the all the goals he's conceded would they be right? i could equally well trot out all the people who've been saying Robbo's being playing really badly, that his form is the pits for his club and who said he was responsible for Russia's winner the other day.

You can't wield that particular cudgel unless you're prepared to have it wield against you in turn. The number of experts backing BC's version of events far outweigh the number backing the laudably loyal minority of spurs supporters who wish to mitigate every mistake he makes. That doesn't carry the argument though and you'd be incensed if i were to suggest it did.

Lastly, it's a bit pointless arguing semantically that Robbo's a good keeper, because he's clearly better than the vast majority of keepers. A dog fish is a very big fish indeed when compared to your average gold-fish, he's just not that impressive when you compare him to the other sharks in the sea. You've got to judge Robbo by the quality of his peers in the pool in which he swims.

Que? Eek I'm not really talking about his current form or any mistakes he may have made, at least I'm pretty certain i'm not....did it read that way?

Is Paul Robinson, generally speaking a poor goalkeeper and inept?

I say not, from what you've written above, you say not and i'll say again:

He's managed to convince judges like O'Leary, Venables, Pleat, SGE, McClown,Jol and several others that he's at least 'good' and far from inept.

If the number of experts who say otherwise far outweighs that list, then name them, I haven't seen any experts saying he's poor and inept, i'd be interested to see such a list.

I did actually say he's hit a low in form and confidence and no one denies he's made mistakes, but his form wasn't what I was talking about.

I'm saying that to outright dismiss Paul Robinson as a poor goalkeeper and inept is just plain wrong.

And to claim you know better than 3 former England managers* is even wronger.

And quite funny.:wink:




*Oooops got ahead of myself there. Two former England managers and one soon to be former. :razz:

 

[thinktank]

I know people are ridiculing the conspiracy idea, but if you watched past full time of the england game they showed the players walking back down the tunnel to the dressing rooms and robinson was walking perfectly fine, not hobbling at all.

Because he's not injured.

 

[alamo]

Because he's not injured.

What??? And you know this how?

If you have ever played any kind if sport you would know it is perfectly possible to strain a muscle and not have it tighten up until the next day. Such conspiracy theory nonsense is just that - nonsense

 

[Green Samot]

It wouldn't surprise me if he's not actually injured but has been dropped and the 'injury' story has been used so he can save face