Should we bring Comolli back to revive our transfer situation?

[steve]

Irrespective of how he's done since, he was completely the wrong signing for us, as was proven subsequently. We had Berbatov who had been with us a year, Keane on the best form of his career, Defoe still chomping at the bit and even Mido at that time. We did not need to splash £16m on Darren Bent, we had far more pressing concerns. Any wanker with half a brain could see that. Unfortunately, Comolli had even less than half a brain.

Yeah but he didn't buy Andy Carroll did he??

Oh shit I forgot...

 

[Armstrong_11]

I would like Spurs to get a DoF to give us another pair of hands in the transfer market. i think our transfer have been lousy the past couple of windows mainly due to Levy having too many things on the plate (NDP, signing sponsors etc.)

I don't think Comolli is the answer... but i don't mind promotion Bloomfield, I think he was the one that was responsible for Sandro? (or am I wrong).

 

[eddiebailey]

no real youth purchasing policy (Sandro aside)

and Walker and Naughton and Falque, plus all the foreign kids we have been fielding in NextGen (Vejkovic, Luongo, Gomelt, Coulibaly, Ceballos, Bentilab)

and a paper thin squad.

Including players out on loan we have around 30 established Premiership players; when Comolli left we had about fifteen, and a lot of those would not get near the first team now.

Comolli, the man who signed our most successful players of the last decade - Berbatov, Modric and Bale

Also Bentley, Rocha, Gilberto and Sanchez, and Bent, Pavyluchenko, Zokora and Hutton did not exactly work out as well as planned. Then there were all the youngsters with bad attitudes. Say what you like about Harry but he has not signed any real turkeys (well, apart from the return of Keane and Chimbo). Also we were chasing Berbs long before Comolli came on the scene; as for Bale, a fantastic prospect but at the time we desperately needed the finished article (the same incidentally could be said of Assou-Ekottu and Kaboul). I'll give you Modric though.

 

[Spursking]

Frank Arnesen made his best ever signing just after he left Spurs.
Guess who it was....?

It was Lassana Diarra from Le Havre. Why didn't he sign him for Spurs before he left?

If we only had kept him 1 more month at The Club.

 

[DHMadboy]

Comolli uses a complete scattergun approach, he just buys the supposedly best players out there, whether or not they fit in with the club, playing style or what the team are in desperate need of. he did it to us spending money on good players that the manager didnt want or need, and hes done the same at liverpool, they were desperate for wingers and defenders, he comes in and buys strikers and centre midfielders, absolute genius, unless of course he's still on levy's payroll, in which case, nice one son

 

[Phantom]

Obviously with a lack of inside knowledge (bar the minefiled of ITK) of how we conduct our deals it is very hard to judge, but perception is that we seem to be struggling to get deals done. I expect it is more to do with the wage structure than anything else. Personally I would be in favour of a DoF style role for identifying youth prospects and getting deals done. With Levy and Arry (+ any of number of trusted advisers) being left to improve the first team squad.

 

[sloth]

Here's an excellent article in the Guardian from their Secret footballer series (anyone else read them? They're really good.), basically the guy's talking about Commolli and his Moneyball approach, and makes exactly the same point I have previously about how the approach suits a game like Baseball where essentially it's a battle between Pitcher and Batter, the closest to which we have in football is the set-play. It's a mis-use and misunderstanding of statistics the way Commolli does it, imo. Anyway here's the article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/...aller-moneyball-stoke-liverpool?newsfeed=true

 

[StartingPrice]

Obviously with a lack of inside knowledge (bar the minefiled of ITK) of how we conduct our deals it is very hard to judge, but perception is that we seem to be struggling to get deals done. I expect it is more to do with the wage structure than anything else. Personally I would be in favour of a DoF style role for identifying youth prospects and getting deals done. With Levy and Arry (+ any of number of trusted advisers) being left to improve the first team squad.

I reached the conclusion at the end of the Summer that Levy is, basically, taking on a lot of the functions of DOF whilst remaining Chairman. He needs to make up his mind: either hire a DOF and if 'Arry (or alternative) is not happy with the system, hire a coach who is; or, hire a traditional-style British manager, who has control over all aspects of hiring and firing, and the Chairman jsut hands him hoever much he is allowed to spend, and if he is not happy with allowing Redknapp that role (i.e. control over money ), he should hire a manager he does trust.

I believe his preference is for the DOF, and he did say, when he sacked Comolli that he was putting the system into abeyance in order to hire Redknapp, as he (Redknapp) didn't want to work under a DOF.

I should stress that this is something that I said last Summer, and not something I am saying because of our recent implosion. I would, at that time, have preferred that manager to have been Redknapp. But the point remains much the same, either way.

 

[Real_madyidd]

The problem with us and star players or even bringing in 'up and coming' players isnt the scouting network, it is the chairman and his reluctance to spend and his insistence on being involved in every deal.

I feel better for writing that.

I for one am glad Levy is involved inevery deal. Harry can't manage his own finances (as he testified) so shouldnt be an option. Yet, for some he wont work with a director of football (which is what levy is acting like).

 

[Real_madyidd]

Frank Arnesen made his best ever signing just after he left Spurs.
Guess who it was....?

It was Lassana Diarra from Le Havre. Why didn't he sign him for Spurs before he left?

If we only had kept him 1 more month at The Club.

Except you are wrong. Frank Arnesen was put in charge of YOUTH DEVELOPMENT at Chelsea, so was not responsible for that signing.

 

[Spursking]

Except you are wrong. Frank Arnesen was put in charge of YOUTH DEVELOPMENT at Chelsea, so was not responsible for that signing.

It is true that his role was YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, but he was young at the time. It was the first signing they did when he was in charge.

 

[Real_madyidd]

It is true that his role was YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, but he was young at the time. It was the first signing they did when he was in charge.

he wasn't youth. You are wrong. Simple.

 

[tototoner]

Talking a lot of sense on Talksport right now, he is in the studio for an hour

 

[sunnydelight786]

Talking a lot of sense on Talksport right now, he is in the studio for an hour

What's he saying?

 

[tototoner]

What's he saying?

going on about the Moneyball Approach, stats

he highly praised Lucas and Andy Carroll - talking mainly Liverpool

 

[tototoner]

He says you should recruit players on stats and not gut feeling - it's all about the data

 

[guy]

He so didnt use the moneyball approach at Livershite did he?

70 odd mill on Downing, Henderson and Carroll is the opposite of the philosophy

 

[ohwhenthespurs]

I find it very hard to judge Comolli's transfer record with Spurs, of for that matter any manager's as it's clear to me that our transfer policy is imposed by Levy, and signings seem to be made by committee, or at least with input from Levy via some of the advisers he appears to have in the game. I find it hard to say with any real conviction that "Comolli only wanted to sign young emerging talent and had a scattergun approach" or that "Redknapp was scared to make substantial outlays and stuck to tested Premier League players" as I don't know how rigidly things are dictated or influenced from above, or who makes some of our signings. What I do know is that successive managers have alluded to a complicated set-up and shall we say a hands-on approach from Levy.

 

[tototoner]

says the personality of the player as important as talent

talks about Gareth Bale. extremely stable family life and person

says Bale reminds him of Maldini and that he 1st told Bale that he should play LM for a few years and then move back to LB later in his career

 

[sloth]

As a guy who pays his mortgage by his ability to rate a player (in a different sport), I can tell you his approach is ridiculous. The idea that a player can be better understood by looking at his stats is simply wrong. Comolli is an idiot, he's dabbling in areas he doesn't understand, and has been shown up numerous times!