UEFA Champions League Final - Dortmund v Bayern

[nightgoat]

We were sat near the Bayern fans, I'm sure the stadium shouldn't have been shaking like it was when the Dortmund fans were bouncing up and down!

Wembley isn't used to atmosphere...

 

[timfrancis]

Wembley isn't used to atmosphere...

That explains it!

 

[Riandor]

Sadly,the general consensus of the neutrals around me do not agree with you about the referee (not to mention the booing of the officials at the end of the game). How bitter would we have been as Spurs fans if at (what turned out to be) 1-1 in any final the ref did not send off the central defender when he should have.Bit of a game changer I'd say.
Also what may not have been picked up by the TV was the frequent play acting of the Bayern players which was not acted upon and each time caused Dortmund to cease their build up sometimes when in a promising position and potentially stopping a counter attack. Each time the Bayern player sprung back up within 15 seconds,only exception being Boateng's genuine injury towards the end of the game.
It's funny how being there gives you a different perception,but I still say the ref had a poor game and I won't repeat some of the understandably dejected Dortmund fans' comments on the tube ride home.

Dortmund challenges were rather robust in some cases though, several body checks on Bayern players that weren't given as fouls as they should have been.

We all complain if a red card ruins a game, but i do think the ref wasnt really doing well. Still he did at least give the penalty... But other than that i would say it wasn't great officials wise.

 

[Riandor]

That explains it!

Anyone wondering, the Dortmund atmosphere is like that constantly at their home stadium... Puts most of the premiership big boys, jf not all epl teams to shame atmosphere wise.

 

[timfrancis]

Anyone wondering, the Dortmund atmosphere is like that constantly at their home stadium... Puts most of the premiership big boys, jf not all epl teams to shame atmosphere wise.

Have wanted to go to a game there for years but finances don't make it likely.

 

[ClintEastwould]

i know its soooo bandwagon-y, but i think im a dortmund fan

 

[RichieS]

Anyone wondering, the Dortmund atmosphere is like that constantly at their home stadium... Puts most of the premiership big boys, jf not all epl teams to shame atmosphere wise.

Is this because at Dortmund (and in the Ruhr in general) football is still the game of the 'working man'?

 

[Riandor]

Is this because at Dortmund (and in the Ruhr in general) football is still the game of the 'working man'?

Well there is no competition for support really, i mean there isn't a second sport like rugby to compete with for example like with wigan or leicester...

Football is also a very well run sport in Germany, with fans controlling lots of the shares and thus decisions about what happens. Ticket prices are kept affordable and clubs can only buy within their means. Yes Bayern have large funds, but they have earned those and then look at what Dortmund has achieved, ahead of all the European big spenders.

I hate to say it but German football is a model we should be emulating, league and internationally.
Also worth noting that even all the Bayern fans i spoke to around here were proud of Dortmund, what they achieved and showed the world... Great advert for German football and a great advert for sportsmanship, with Bayern fans supporting Dortmund as they reached the final and applaud their club and their achievements (easier to do when your team is still winning all the trophies lol).

Still, in Germany the national team and pride at any German team doing well abroad is very high and whilst i was enjoying the jokes about a german team finally losing at wembley, i would say last night no team lost. German football still found a way to win...

 

[tomo]

Refs favouring the more traditional 'big club' again - Ribery and Dante should have been sent off. Ribery's overall behaviour was pretty poor, not a likeable fella on the pitch at all.
Overall though Bayern looked the better team and deserved to win even though they did get a few breaks.

 

[Riandor]

Refs favouring the more traditional 'big club' again - Ribery and Dante should have been sent off. Ribery's overall behaviour was pretty poor, not a likeable fella on the pitch at all.
Overall though Bayern looked the better team and deserved to win even though they did get a few breaks.

Dortmund needed to score during the period they were on top... It was only a matter of time before Bayern got their game together.

 

[tomo]

Dortmund needed to score during the period they were on top... It was only a matter of time before Bayern got their game together.

Yep, the first 20 mins. They lacked creativity after that and their squad doesn't actually seem have that much depth to it. Done really well to win their domestic league in recent years though and get to the Champs League final this season. Loved the fact they tore Real Madrid a new one!

 

[nightgoat]

We all complain if a red card ruins a game, but i do think the ref wasnt really doing well. Still he did at least give the penalty... But other than that i would say it wasn't great officials wise.

If Ribery and/or Dante had been sent off then no one could accuse the referee of ruining the game. Ribery/Dante would have ruined the game.

 

[OmarsComing]

Wembley isn't used to atmosphere...

The last champions league final at wembley had an amazing atmosphere

 

[Lufti]

i know its soooo bandwagon-y, but i think im a dortmund fan

Everyone who I've spoken to about the match in England has said the same thing. Glory hunters the lot of you!

Tod und hass dem BVB

 

[ClintEastwould]

Everyone who I've spoken to about the match in England has said the same thing. Glory hunters the lot of you!

Tod und hass dem BVB

hah! if we were true glory hunters wed choose bayern/chelsea/madrid

in any case, there are many similarities between bvb and spurs. Sleeping giant competing with the big rich oil clubs in a respectable manner with a young passionate manager and players

 

[Brosama]

Refs favouring the more traditional 'big club' again - Ribery and Dante should have been sent off. Ribery's overall behaviour was pretty poor, not a likeable fella on the pitch at all.
Overall though Bayern looked the better team and deserved to win even though they did get a few breaks.

Well Dortmund had some lucky breaks as well. The Lewandowski incident and another time when a Bayern player was pulled back going through on goal. I think it near enough evened itself out.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Sadly,the general consensus of the neutrals around me do not agree with you about the referee (not to mention the booing of the officials at the end of the game). How bitter would we have been as Spurs fans if at (what turned out to be) 1-1 in any final the ref did not send off the central defender when he should have.Bit of a game changer I'd say.
Also what may not have been picked up by the TV was the frequent play acting of the Bayern players which was not acted upon and each time caused Dortmund to cease their build up sometimes when in a promising position and potentially stopping a counter attack. Each time the Bayern player sprung back up within 15 seconds,only exception being Boateng's genuine injury towards the end of the game.
It's funny how being there gives you a different perception,but I still say the ref had a poor game and I won't repeat some of the understandably dejected Dortmund fans' comments on the tube ride home.

But when have you ever seen a player cautioned for exaggerating an injury, or staying on the deck longer than the injury required ? I agree about the penalty incident, he should have got a second yellow, pure and simple, but I also think 80% of refs would probably have done the same.

The truth is, and I am a huge Dortmund admirer, so say this with a heavy heart, Bayern were the better team over the piece.

 

[specspurs]

But when have you ever seen a player cautioned for exaggerating an injury, or staying on the deck longer than the injury required ? I agree about the penalty incident, he should have got a second yellow, pure and simple, but I also think 80% of refs would probably have done the same.

The truth is, and I am a huge Dortmund admirer, so say this with a heavy heart, Bayern were the better team over the piece.

I agree with all that you say,but the feigning injury happened relatively frequently and always when Dortmund had the ball that it almost seemed like a deliberate tactic. One booking just once and it all would've stopped.
I also felt Bayern were the better team and can't say, (as much as Dortmund represent so much that is good about football in a time when there is so much wrong with the game both on and off the field), that Bayern didn't deserve to win.

 

[cwy21]

I think if the ref gives a 2nd yellow on the penalty, we have just as many people if not more saying "the ref ruined the CL final and should never ref again". Clearly its a tough job where you can never win. Also doesn't help that most players are actively trying to deceive you into making rash decisions. Did Dante foul his opponent? Yes. Clearly it was a penalty. Did he recklessly kick his opponent and deserve a second yellow? Probably. Can I blame Rizzoli for not sending him off? Absolutely not.

 

[Lufti]

hah! if we were true glory hunters wed choose bayern/chelsea/madrid

in any case, there are many similarities between bvb and spurs. Sleeping giant competing with the big rich oil clubs in a respectable manner with a young passionate manager and players

Yeah, but everyone only likes them now that they're good and up there with the best. They've won the dfb pokal and the bundesliga twice in the last 2 years, where were people when they were going bankrupt in 2003 hm?