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World Cup Final - Match Thread: Germany v Argentina

beats1

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People forget that Maradona didn't score in the final of 1986 so I don't see the difference too much in the situations.
Did setup the winner though and thats the difference, they won.

The issue with Messi is that with the national team he has never had great form and before 2012 that barca teams struggled without xavi in the team more than any other team

I think for people, he has to show his great form at somewhere other than barcelona
 
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felmani26

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But this is the point, it shouldn't be beneath him, he's been given the captaincy of his country, he's leading them in a world cup final. That shows either a week mentality, or if you are correct and he feels it's beneath him, then he will never be the best.


I hate agreeing with @yankspurs but he's right. Pele or Maradona would not have missed his the chance that he did. They knew how to change a game of this size, and wouldn't have let the occassion get to them.
I think we'll see how much character and commitment he has this coming season as he will be scrutinised harder than perhaps at any other time in his career - plus he'll be competing with Neymar and now Suarez.

Hopefully he finds his best form again.
 

kr1978

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Didi Hamann ‏@DietmarHamann 14s
Neuer mentioning Reus and the Benders who missed out straight after the game shows what this team is all about... Sensational ... Very proud

Scary to think about the depth of talent Germany has at the moment.

They have players that didn't even make the squad that would comfortably get in the England starting line up at the moment
 

JaySpur

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People slating Messi but Ageuro hasn't turned up either and needs to take to look at himself, hope he takes this shit form into the new season with City.

Agreed. Argentina never found the right balance at any point in the tournament. They just crammed all their big names onto the field and hoped they'd work... it didn't. Making it to the final has merely 'papered over the cracks' of that philosophy
 
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