`Arry Out, Guus In For Tottenham...

[talkshowhost86]

If we do to Harry what we did to Jol then I think there would be a backlash against the board so hopefully they won't be that stupid again.

Harry has taken us from bottom to challenging for a Champions League place. That at least deserves another season.

 

[thewolfman]

Our wage structure and transfer policy would prevent Hiddink accepting a job here.

Totally agree with this and it is something that a lot of Spurs fans would do with remembering when criticising Harry. Being one of the "Top 4" gives a team the reputation, money and lure of CL football to capture the best players/most lucrative sponsorship deals etc etc Something that, due our lack of success in the past 20 years, we cant compete with. We dont have a endless supply of cash like Chelsea/Man City, but we dont have the staggering debt of Liverpool/Man United. We have a structured wage and transfer policy that will prevent us living beyond our means and ending up like Portsmouth or Leeds of a few years ago.
Given that, I dont think we could have achieved anymore and progressed further from last season as we have under Harry Redknapp if anyone else was in charge. Anyone who thinks we are entitled to a top 4 spot needs a reality check. But we are one point away from 4th regardless. True we have lost games we should of won and dropped points but so have City, Liverpool and Villa. The League is the tightest it has been for years and now is the time to get behind the team fully, not carping on about having a different manager/first 11 etc etc...

 

[bryanabutler]

I want Alex Inglethorpe and Clive Allen, when Harry goes, They know and have done a great job with our youth players. The only thing i have against Harry is he buys to many average players, from his old teams.

 

[Supersi32]

There was context in his failure at Bayern, he wanted to change to whole institutional structure and mentality of the club. Unfortunately several of the powerful people in the club kicked back and reisisted the changes, it became a hugely political game.

Hiddink has had failures in his career too...

Fair point, however I don`t see the point of replacing a tried and trusted PL manager in Redknapp with a guy who had a semi successful spell as German national team manager, and a complete disaster at the richest, most successfull, powerful club in Germany.....It seems to me that because Redknapp hasn`t already secured 4th spot in his first full season, he`s taken us as far as he can....ridiculous!!!

 

[Yiddo1982]

Harry has done fantastic with this squad, Yes it has its flaws but he knows what needs addressing and will address this in the summer I hope. We play some lovely attacking football much like the 'old spurs' way.

its pathetic people are calling for his head when we are a point off 4th, some of you are so stuck in the 60's thinking Spurs are some massive club who's divine right it is to be in the top 4.
its about time some so called 'fans' stopped embarrassing this club with calls for the managers head when we don't win the league.
So what we get Guus in, spend another 2 years 'building' a squad going through a transitional season then when we don't get the required success move onto the next big hot shot who will win spurs the league that our massive club deserves?

have a day off and go take your frustrations out on our your right hands.

You're wrong.

Half the problem is that our players turn up to places like Molineux thinking they have the divine right to walk away from there with three points. That's half the problem, the ability to go and get the job done when up against it. We had eleven superior players on the pitch against Wolves, compared to their XI. They had belief and put the effort in; we were lazy, unmotivated and gutless. The manager needs to instill that belief. Not sit in his fancy-dan chair with his legs crossed.

That's what pathetic.

 

[theShiznit]

I don't understand how the article can suggest that Harry may have taken us as far as he can. He only arrived last season for god sake. And guess what? We're doing better than last season. So who's to say we wont do better again next season?

Isn't that what we've been doing for many years now? I don't recall too many players signed from the top clubs. Aside from Giovani, but he isn't a big star.

The last part of that sentence kind of adds the context :grin:

 

[StartingPrice]

I don't understand how the article can suggest that Harry may have taken us as far as he can. He only arrived last season for god sake. And guess what? We're doing better than last season. So who's to say we wont do better again next season?

Isn't that what we've been doing for many years now? I don't recall too many players signed from the top clubs. Aside from Giovani, but he isn't a big star.

:up: Silly, ain't it. Challenging for fourth and still in the FA Cup (even if tenuously in both, atm). Even if it turns out to be correct, it would only be by luck, as it is just impossible to make this call at the moment. How about we get into a time machine and go back to when Fergie had only been at United for 18 months and start a 'Fergie has taken United as far as he can' campaign in the mediamg:

There was context in his failure at Bayern

Yeah, that's right, he made the players make all of thosse public appearances in Leiderhosen:grin:

Yeah, in truth, though, what this club has neededfor a long tim is stabiity and continuity. 'Arry has his faults, and if he were to replaced by anyone I would want it to be someone like Hiddinck, but only if they then stayed in the job long enough to give us continuity and stability (and would be very harsh on twitchy).

Sometimes it is necessary to strike while the iron is hot - which, I feel was largely responsible for the PR disaster that was the Wandery Ramos acquisition. Supposing Mourinho were to be available, tomorrow, we might appeal to him as he claims to have been a fan as a kid, and because of his connections with Abramovic omg. Would it be right to shunt 'Arry out:shrug: Don't thnk so, but how many of us would be delighted to see a truly world class name at the helm?

 

[Yiddo1982]

If we do to Harry what we did to Jol then I think there would be a backlash against the board so hopefully they won't be that stupid again.

Harry has taken us from bottom to challenging for a Champions League place. That at least deserves another season.

When you put it like that, it sounds like he has done a great job.

I'm not denying he has done a good job, but not great.

This year proved our best chance since Lasagne-gate to get Champions League football, but we haven't capatilised. We should be comfortably in third/fourth. And it's largely down to belief, motivation and a lack of tactical nous to get three points when we are not imposing ourselves like we should.

 

[sidford]

no way should be thinking about getting rid of harry at this stage and to even contemplate it is crazy! yea we have had some terrible performances, especially lately, but harry knows this better then anyone and will see the reaction of players to this slump and the mental strength (or lack of) and this will help our summer transfer policy to ship out the players who are weak mentally and replace them with stronger characters & players.
to suggest sacking him before next season is..... well lets keep it civil and say i dont agree

 

[danielneeds]

Sometimes it is necessary to strike while the iron is hot - which, I feel was largely responsible for the PR disaster that was the Wandery Ramos acquisition. Supposing Mourinho were to be available, tomorrow, we might appeal to him as he claims to have been a fan as a kid, and because of his connections with Abramovic omg. Would it be right to shunt 'Arry out:shrug: Don't thnk so, but how many of us would be delighted to see a truly world class name at the helm?

I agree with you, sometimes, it just pays to have patience. If say Mourinho was availible, and supposing his people suggested he would be open to an offer from us (both big ifs granted), what Levy should do is say no thanks, we have stablity and a man doing a good job, we should the consistant view. Unfortunately Levy has shown a lack of patience in the past. so who knows what would happen.

 

[Blockbuster]

You're wrong.

Half the problem is that our players turn up to places like Molineux thinking they have the divine right to walk away from there with three points. That's half the problem, the ability to go and get the job done when up against it. We had eleven superior players on the pitch against Wolves, compared to their XI. They had belief and put the effort in; we were lazy, unmotivated and gutless. The manager needs to instill that belief. Not sit in his fancy-dan chair with his legs crossed.

That's what pathetic.

oh yeah Sorry forgot we have never dropped points and played badly under any other manager for 20 odd years.

 

[gibbs131]

I don't think many would argue that they would rather Guus in for Harry.

Loyalty breeds loyalty, and Harry has done some dirty deeds in the past so I won;t exactly feel all Jol about him being replaced.

I have a said it a few times: This is Harrys first month of being a Spurs manager. Because it is times like this, we get to see if he can give soft old Spurs the push they need.

 

[nuttynoah]

I have a sneaky feeling Harry will step aside in the summer and semi-retire from Management, even if we win the FA Cup. Expect him to coach GB in the Olympics.

Then if we're going dutch, i'd go for Johan Cruyff, surely the ultimate Spurs manager, style of play and all that.
He is only 2 years older than Wenger so plenty of life left in him. He recently returned to management after a break of 13 years with Catalonia, hopefully got his juices flowing again and might be tempted by one of the top jobs in world football

 

[EastLondonYid]

How on earth can people say he has taken us as far as he can????
isnt this his first full season?
if we are in the same position this time next year...der..i would still take that!!!!!!!!
1pt off 4th ..cup run...
tell me this is a wind up or your some sort of fortune teller that can see into the future.
what makes you so sure HIDDINK is any good anyway.
russia were shit
chelsea didnt exactly pull up trees,with a better team then we have.
Havnt you lot learnt your lesson with the 'oh succesful ramos'
give harry a chance
if he fucks up,im sure you will let him know
untill then.....get off his case!

 

[Blockbuster]

How on earth can people say he has taken us as far as he can????
isnt this his first full season?
if we are in the same position this time next year...der..i would still take that!!!!!!!!
1pt off 4th ..cup run...
tell me this is a wind up or your some sort of fortune teller that can see into the future.
what makes you so sure HIDDINK is any good anyway.
russia were shit
chelsea didnt exactly pull up trees,with a better team then we have.
Havnt you lot learnt your lesson with the 'oh succesful ramos'
give harry a chance
if he fucks up,im sure you will let him know
untill then.....get off his case!

IF i could rep you again I would..Excellent post mate

 

[14/04/91]

Everyone should acknowledge what a job Harry has done thus far, noone can argue otherwise (with any credibility that is).
However what concerns me is our lack of 'flexibilty' on the pitch, in short no plan B.
We've got to deal with over half the teams setting up for a 0-0 against us, but we've not done that this season (other than Brum arguably).
Bearing in mind the size & strength of our squad, the lack of substitutions and invention worries me; we don't change the shape when the opposition have 10 men in their own half (which also explains our decent away form).
I strongly feel Harry needs a clever coach alongside him who can see things differently; it seems Bond and Jordan don't offer this.
Whether someone as strong-minded as Harry would accept this, not to mention finding the right coach, I don't know but we've become too easy to play against imo and something needs to change.

 

[talkshowhost86]

When you put it like that, it sounds like he has done a great job.

I'm not denying he has done a good job, but not great.

This year proved our best chance since Lasagne-gate to get Champions League football, but we haven't capatilised. We should be comfortably in third/fourth. And it's largely down to belief, motivation and a lack of tactical nous to get three points when we are not imposing ourselves like we should.

It's not a case of me 'putting it like that'. That's just the facts. In a very short space of time he's turned us from relegation candidates to champions league candidates.

And to suggest it is our best chance in years and to use that against Redknapp is surely strange logic. It's our best chance in years BECAUSE Redknapp has done so well in the first place.

 

[GlennHoddle]

More like Gus Poyet is what we can attract!!

Would love to see Harry get animated on the line like Gus (Poyet that is!), shows he cares and will let rip into the players, its the sitting back with no facial expressions at all that annoy me as much as the players not giving a sh*t

 

[Jody]

More like Gus Poyet is what we can attract!!

Would love to see Harry get animated on the line like Gus (Poyet that is!), shows he cares and will let rip into the players, its the sitting back with no facial expressions at all that annoy me as much as the players not giving a sh*t

That's a bit unfair. Harry's facial expressions are legendary.

 

[kaz Hirai]

i would be happy him staying for another 3 years even with his odd choice on playing peter the clown crouch all the time, long ball tactics, unwillingness to change formations during games or creative substitutions, in spite of those nitpicks i have about him, cant deny he has done well in a short space of time and should be allowed much more time.

If we weren't looking so dangerously like relegation material with Ramos and Gus i would have been happy to have given them a couple of seasons 2 though :lol: