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class of 62

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Now confirmed that Di Canio's the new Head Coach.

Interesting that David Miliband's stepped down from his role as non-executive chairman because of Di Canio's "past political statements". Respect for that.

nice soundbite.. milliband's already emirgrating to the u.s to take over thunderbirds is'unt he!.

pity he wasn 't that vocal & political with Gordon brown when he had the chance the gutless mug..
no respect at all for another non job wonder... leave football alone.
 

CosmicHotspur

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Milliband is Jewish, Di Canio is a fascist so it's not surprising that he no longer wishes to be a non-Executive Director and Deputy Chairman although no doubt he will still be a Sunderland supporter.

It had nothing to do with his new USA appointment.
 
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Milliband is Jewish, Di Canio is a fascist so it's not surprising that he no longer wishes to be a non-Executive Director and Deputy Chairman although no doubt he will still be a Sunderland supporter.

It had nothing to do with his new USA appointment.

Can't agree with that sorry...he was resigning anyway due to his new job! It just looks better on him to resign this way...not that I can blame him for taking the opportunity.
 

dontcallme

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Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in mid-20th century Europe. Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that seeks the mass mobilization of the national community,[3][4] relying on a vanguard party to initiate a revolution to organize the nation on fascist principles.[5] Hostile to liberal democracy, socialism, and communism, fascist movements share certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader.


Other than Di Canio saying "I'm not a racist, I'm a fascist" what are his politics? He did the Nazi salute while playing for Lazio but what were the reasons/background? Mark Bosnich did it to Spurs fans and hasn't been branded a racist for his career.

I'd quite like to know what he actually believes.
 

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Milliband is Jewish, Di Canio is a fascist so it's not surprising that he no longer wishes to be a non-Executive Director and Deputy Chairman although no doubt he will still be a Sunderland supporter.

It had nothing to do with his new USA appointment.

sorry, I always thought milliband was a lifelong Woolwich fan!.
 

dontcallme

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Paolo Di Canio must clarify his current political beliefs and distance himself from fascism, according to Football Against Racism in Europe director Piara Powar.

Di Canio was announced as a replacement for sacked Sunderland boss Martin O'Neill last night and is taking his first training session at the club on Monday.

The former Lazio striker has previously admitted to having fascist leanings, telling Italian news agency ANSA in 2005: "I am a fascist, not a racist."

Former foreign secretary David Miliband immediately resigned as Sunderland's vice-chairman and non-executive director after Di Canio was named O'Neill's successor on Sunday night, citing the Italian's "past political statements".
Powar is concerned the appointment of Di Canio could have dangerous repercussions if his political beliefs are not immediately challenged. "When there is a rise of intolerance and there is a coach in the Barclays Premier League, which is the most watched league globally, who hasn't clarified or wanted to renounce his fascist views during his time in the UK, it is a worrying time," Powar said.

"Di Canio has the opportunity to clarify his views and let us know what his approach will be and how his strongly held views will influence how he will do his job. It would be hypocritical of us (at FARE) not to point out his self-proclaimed fascist past when we are outraged by Lazio fans when they make the Roman salute, which we all know has been made famous by Hitler and the far right.

"When they make that gesture and monkey noises to black players, it is hypocritical to pick out the views of fans and not a manager at a top-level side. Di Canio has made that salute himself as a player. I think from our perspective we would say we are seeing the rise of the far right and the intolerance and hatred that goes with that across Europe. Being a fascist is not a soft political label. In many way it's a political label that comes across with all sorts of dangerous ideas and ideals and that is the concern for us."

Di Canio, who quit as manager of npower League One side Swindon in February, was the subject of a Football Association investigation last year after on-loan Leyton Orient striker Jonathan Tehoue claimed he was racially abused by the Italian. Di Canio was later cleared of the charge, although Swindon made an apology to the player.


When asked if Di Canio could be the right choice for Sunderland to help ensure their top-flight survival, Powar said: "There are all these good footballing reasons to employ him, but are footballing reasons enough when someone comes with the baggage he comes with?"

However, former Swindon chairman Jeremy Wray insists Di Canio has been unfairly labelled. "It is a sad knee-jerk response," said Wray of Miliband's position. "I doubt David Miliband knows Paolo. I knew him for two years but we never spoke about politics. It is not relevant to keeping Sunderland in the Premier League."

Sunderland fans groups said the club's success should take priority over politics but they remain wary of Di Canio's views. Supporters' Club member Stan Simpson, a season ticket holder for 40 years, said: "There is no way, as fans, we would entertain any fascism in our club. As long as he doesn't express any political opinions I can cope with it. I've got no problem with him being there. But if he expresses those sort of opinions while he's there, he should be sacked, it doesn't matter how or where. It's not acceptable in this country."

Janet Rowan, a long-time supporter and secretary of the Chester-le-Street supporters' group, said she thought Di Canio was "very passionate" about his involvement in the game but said extremist politics "isn't something we want in football". She added: "I respect David Miliband's views but as fans we have got to support Di Canio. I think with some people, his appointment probably will leave a bad taste but I hope that the majority of fans are going to put Sunderland football club ahead of everything."

Source: The Guardian
 

dontcallme

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I've never read of anyone who played with him, against him or for him have a problem with him.

Seems to me he believes in a strong leader, hard work and dedication more than anything.
 

Sum Monsterism

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I've never read of anyone who played with him, against him or for him have a problem with him.

Seems to me he believes in a strong leader, hard work and dedication more than anything.

er... from your previous post:

"on-loan Leyton Orient striker Jonathan Tehoue claimed he was racially abused by the Italian. Di Canio was later cleared of the charge, although Swindon made an apology to the player."
 

dontcallme

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er... from your previous post:

"on-loan Leyton Orient striker Jonathan Tehoue claimed he was racially abused by the Italian. Di Canio was later cleared of the charge, although Swindon made an apology to the player."

That'll teach me not to read an entire article.
 

Sum Monsterism

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Now this is pathetic. Has any manager had to clarify their political leanings before? how about sexual orientation or religion? Maybe just give everyone a questionnaire at the beginning of the season to decide whether it's ok for them to be employed.

not really - no other manager, at least that I can think of, has claimed belief in what is considered by most to be a ridiculous, outdated and generally downright moronic philosophy...

any politician or other public figure who came out and said something similar would certainly need to qualify his remarks or the media would bay for blood...
 

ilikeost

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The people who know me can change that idea quickly. When I was in England my best friends were Trevor Sinclair and Chris Powell, the Charlton manager – they can tell you everything about my character.

Did he just use the "I can't be racist, I have black friends!" defence?
 

EJWTartanSpur

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Glad he's been sacked, never liked him....

Overrated at Celtic where he spent a ton of money
Dreadfully defensive at Villa where he spent a ton of money ( 1-1 game where we bossed them for 60+ mins at Villa Park was a farce )
Done nothing at Sunderland whilst wasting money on antiquated ordinary players
 

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Now this is pathetic. Has any manager had to clarify their political leanings before? how about sexual orientation or religion? Maybe just give everyone a questionnaire at the beginning of the season to decide whether it's ok for them to be employed.

I can't think of any other manager who has given two Roman salutes towards opposing fans (which the Italian FA found to be worthy of a fine) and expressed admiration for a leader who not only had Italian Jews detained at Fossoli and then transferred to Auschwitz but also tried to wipe out the Slovenian people.
 
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