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Khilari

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Has he buggery. 'His finishing has been poor of late'? It's been fucking abysmal all season. 36 attempts, two goals. He's also created fewer chances than Lennon, who's had less than half the time on the pitch.

He's shown enough to demonstrate that he could be an excellent signing once he gets his act together, but let's not get delusional.

He's not been allowed to play near the top for many of our games, instead sitting alongside Sandro, so I'm not surprised he's had so many long shots. His back heel finish for his first goal was a thing of beauty. And his goals are not defining of what he lends to the team, it's his movement, passing and helping link to the attack in recent games where he's looked good.

Given South Americans historically take a little longer to adapt to the Premier League, I'm delighted with Paulinho. Brilliant player. Looking forward to him getting better
 

SpurSince57

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He's not been allowed to play near the top for many of our games, instead sitting alongside Sandro, so I'm not surprised he's had so many long shots. His back heel finish for his first goal was a thing of beauty. And his goals are not defining of what he lends to the team, it's his movement, passing and helping link to the attack in recent games where he's looked good.

Given South Americans historically take a little longer to adapt to the Premier League, I'm delighted with Paulinho. Brilliant player. Looking forward to him getting better

So am I. But to claim he's been 'excellent' is ridiculous. He hasn't.
 

Khilari

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So am I. But to claim he's been 'excellent' is ridiculous. He hasn't.

Ok, fair enough, your opinion. I think he has based on the fact that he's performed better than most of the new signings despite stepping into the squad late after the Confed Cup and making the transition for S America to Premiership midfielder smoothly.

If you want to compare him to Ozil or Ramsey, he's not been as spectacular. But given the above and compared to our squad I think he's been excellent.

Ridiculous? I'm glad your opinion is no better or valued than mine.
 

kungfugrip

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I think he'll score a lot more goals than Jenas ever did. He gets into far better positions than Jenas IMO. I'm happy with him so far and think he'll do really wee for us.

Jenas bagged 25 goals in his first 4 years with us. Don't think Paulinho will be around that long. He certainly gets into some great goal scoring positions. Hopefully he can convert a few more. Overall though, the jury's still out on him for me.
 

Strikeb4ck

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Jenas bagged 25 goals in his first 4 years with us. Don't think Paulinho will be around that long. He certainly gets into some great goal scoring positions. Hopefully he can convert a few more. Overall though, the jury's still out on him for me.
Paulinho is a 10+ goal a season midfielder in my opinion. Should already have 5 or 6.
 

EllenAlex

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Jenas bagged 25 goals in his first 4 years with us. Don't think Paulinho will be around that long. He certainly gets into some great goal scoring positions. Hopefully he can convert a few more. Overall though, the jury's still out on him for me.

Because you don't rate him, or because he'll get too much attention from the bigger clubs?
 

ultimateloner

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Hes an all rounder with a good engine. But his tracking back is suspect. So i think he's deployed correctly at the moment. Opportunities are dropping for him too just need to take them.
 

Gbspurs

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I believe he will be quality and next season we won't believe we got him so cheap.
 

spurs9

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Has he buggery. 'His finishing has been poor of late'? It's been fucking abysmal all season. 36 attempts, two goals. He's also created fewer chances than Lennon, who's had less than half the time on the pitch.

He's shown enough to demonstrate that he could be an excellent signing once he gets his act together, but let's not get delusional.
To be fair, Lennon's main job in the team is to create chances. Also, for all of the chances created (remember a 1 yard pass to someone 30 yards out that has a shot counts as a chance created) Lennon has 0 assists and 0 goal.

Paulinho's main job is to link defence to attack, yet he has 2 goals and assists, despite not playing in the EPL before. Whilst there is plenty of room for improvement, I still think he was a good signing.
 

jezz

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He scored 10+ in all competitions for the past 3 seasons.
We bought Paul, Erikson, Lamela and Chads because they all have goals in them.
Dembele,Lennon do not.
For one reason or another they have yet to play together.
will be very interested to see how they get on in the same line up.
 

TheSecretNonFootballer

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We bought Paul, Erikson, Lamela and Chads because they all have goals in them.
Dembele,Lennon do not.
For one reason or another they have yet to play together.
will be very interested to see how they get on in the same line up.

Yeah I think I saw it written somewhere that our 7 new signings scored 97 goals between them last season or something similar.
 

kungfugrip

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Because you don't rate him, or because he'll get too much attention from the bigger clubs?

I just think he'll be away after two seasons to a different, not necessarily bigger club. I think he's done okay so far, but had been hoping for more to be honest. He might really get into his stride come the second half of the season.
 

SpurSince57

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Ok, fair enough, your opinion. I think he has based on the fact that he's performed better than most of the new signings despite stepping into the squad late after the Confed Cup and making the transition for S America to Premiership midfielder smoothly.

If you want to compare him to Ozil or Ramsey, he's not been as spectacular. But given the above and compared to our squad I think he's been excellent.

Ridiculous? I'm glad your opinion is no better or valued than mine.

That's rather like saying he's taller than Aaron Lennon, isn't it?

I've seen a lot that's been encouraging, but encouraging isn't excellent. His finishing's been appalling, his passing and tackling haven't been the greatest. He's done OK, he'll get better. I'm pretty confident that he'll prove to be a great signing. However, he's hardly made the same impact as Ozil, who has been excellent, more's the pity.
 

SpurSince57

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To be fair, Lennon's main job in the team is to create chances. Also, for all of the chances created (remember a 1 yard pass to someone 30 yards out that has a shot counts as a chance created) Lennon has 0 assists and 0 goal.

Paulinho's main job is to link defence to attack, yet he has 2 goals and assists, despite not playing in the EPL before. Whilst there is plenty of room for improvement, I still think he was a good signing.

I think he's a great signing. I also think some people are getting a little bit carried away.
 

PrettyColors

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I agree with SS57. Paulinho is a good, hard-working, athletic midfielder. I think his reputation precedes him though.. He does some good things but his finishing is woeful. Also (and this may just be a tactical issue) I don't like him playin deep, he is very much a sideways player and has a bit of Dempsey in him (slows down attacks mightily, as well as being good for a wasteful shot at least twice a game.) he's actually sort of limited technically as well, his touch is pretty inconsistent.

IMO he'll come good but I don't think he's been the best of the summer signings: I think the best overall has been Chiriches.
 

dontcallme

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I can't believe Paulinho is being compared to Jenas. Jenas was never a bad player like some people are making out but he was inconsistent and had a tendency to drift in and out of games. He also had a tendency of showing his talent in the big games, he loved the NLD, but went missing against relegation fodder.

Paulinho on the other hand is pretty consistent, especially considering he's played less than half a season so far. His positioning is excellent and normally it's him who's busting a gut to get on the end of a cross.

His passing is not his strong point but we didn't sign him to rake 60 yard balls across the pitch. We signed him to be box-to-box, or in other words to receive those 60 yard balls. As he adapts more-and-more to the pace of the Premier League he will become sharper in the box and finish more of his chances.

I think on style of play comparing Paulinho to Jenas is fair. I believe Paulinho to be a much better player of course though.

The question with Paulinho is how best to utilise him. With Jenas we thought we had an attacking centre mid who could score a lot of goals in an advanced postion. He didn't become a great goalscorer and became a deeper lying mid who played it simple, had good retention and let the attacking play be done by the other mids and strikers.

So do we play Paulinho in an advanced 3 man midfield? He gets into the box well and it's easy to believe he'll become a good goalscorer. He's been likened by some to Lampard.

The drawback with this is if we play a 3 man centre mid then we need to drop one of our 3 attacking midfielders.

Maybe Paulinho would be better in a 2 man midfield, holding onto the ball and getting into the area on occasion rather than constantly and letting the likes of Townsend, Lamela, Eriksen, Lennon and Sigurdsson be the attackers.
 

SpursManChris

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Absolutely BRILLIANT today! He did stuff I didn't know he could do! It was disappointing to see him go off. I hope he's alright.
 
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